Banned at Psi-Tech!
Well It seems I have once again fallen from grace with Psi-Tech and joined the ranks of the Banned. The new
website motiff comes with a fairly nifty feature that allows them to inform you ever so politely that you have been Banned.
I find myself in the unfortunate position of having to ask other guild members to copy and email me any good news or goings on there. Thanks in advance and Aloha
Glenn
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Some people just never learned to work and play well with others.
When an open invitation of cooperation is regarded a a snub, what more can you do.
Aloha Yaana
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Hi Glenn, (you Psi-Tech bandito)
Psi-Tech banned you because you failed to provide limo service to the visiting VIP from their AO…hehe.
Intelligence agents…sheesh…should have gone into the Quartermaster Corps…hehe…nah…nah…
Sita
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Aloha Sita,
I have been banned from Psi-Tech many times, it has always been the same source. Never Maj. "D", it has always been Herself. So much spite and anger, its time for the bugs again I think. Bachi is a circle and as it comes around it gathers strength.
Aloha Glenn
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I used to worship at the alter of Ed Dames. I believed he was THE REMOTE VIEWER.
But I’ve learned a lot in the past year, and it seems to me that pretty much what goes on at PSI Tech is people talking about the cut, style, and color of the emperor’s new clothes.
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Interesting misspelling. alter? altar
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Okay, there is this ongoing friction between Psi Tech and everyone else in the remote viewing community.
This is what I feel is the bottom line:
THERE IS NOT JUST ONE SINGLE METHOD OF OBTAINING DATA VIA REMOTE VIEWING.
We posted on this website a session done under controlled conditions by Prudence Calabrese, using TDS protocols. She went to target and brought back great data. (Sid Ashram)
On our site is a link to Paul Smith’s remote viewing page. You can see sessions which illustrate that he and his students used protocols which allowed them to go to target and obtain data.
Look at our sessions pages. We know we can hit the target and obtain detailed information and imagery.
Psi Tech claims they are the only valid form of remote viewing. This is not true.
In fact I have not seen a TRV session that compares with Paul Smith’s, Pru’s session, or our own data. Yet Psi Tech bans anyone who asks questions or even talks about remote viewing.
Check out the link to Joe McMoneagle’s statement concerning Major Dames. Ask yourself, why would they ban anyone who asks questions about remote viewing? Why won’t they even talk about RV with anyone outside their camp?
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Dick for some reason I am hesitant to blame Major D. It doesn’t go well with where he comes from or what he is supposed to be. In the Army working well with others is required. To make a field grade rank you have to have all your ducks in one bag.
I believe the problems with Psi-Tech have a single origin.
Surely no company with this attitude towards the general public will succeed or last long. What I have seen in the Psi-Tech camp has been a bit disturbing.
I remember a lecture transcript from a Dames speech that went something like "I took the best and brightest from the unit" where are they now?
General Stubblebine is no longer there, Major Moorehouse is no longer there, Lyn, Paul, and Joe keep their distance, and In fact Chief Macmoneagle wants to openly debate Major Dames on the Bell show. I cannot imagine that this is how Dames wanted things to turn out. The track record at Psi-Tech is such that hard collection on commercial targets has given way to esoteric targets with no validation factors and a series of end of the world predictions that just keep piling up.
I have been working on an analysis of Psi-Tech predictions and what I see is a pattern that is not very promising. Y2K will not be a problem because we will all be gone before then, its academic. What could be more absurd than that? There is a cloud of delusion that has parked itself over Psi-Tech that needs to clear. Y2k will come, we will be here and we better be ready for it. We better pay attention, fix the systems and hold our collective breath on midnight Dec 31, 1999.
Without Art Bell Psi-Tech has no platform. Time is rushing towards the expiration of the predictions. At some point Art has to stop being the mule for these doom messages because that pig simply can’t fly anymore.
I look about and see many people putting their best work on the net. We in the guild do, as do others.
We work hard and try to let people see the practical application of RV. We try to support those in the field and promote training. This will pay off.
The day will come when we won’t have to be concerned about Psi-Tech because they will be gone. A few of the TRV techs may keep TRV alive and recover some dignity to it but the general weight of all the Predictions will drag the company to the bottom.
We all know RV works, we have the data, we see the results in our own work at the site as well as what others are doing. That is something you can see now, look at and evaluate now! You don’t have to grow old waiting for the pregnant Martians to give birth, ET’s to land, Plant pathogens to kill us, Coronal mass ejections to kill us. Just go to any number of RV websites where people are trying to train and learn.
The venom Psi-Tech spews is always from a safe distance, from the safety of litigation and under the cloak of the Ban. To control you must control the media; Psi-Tech is one debate with Chief Joe from slipping into obscurity. That is one debate, one challenge that Dames will not take. That glove will lie on the ground for a long time to come.
Aloha Glenn
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Glenn: Don’t take it personally! I’ve had occasion during my vacation to talk with some TRV people here in Seattle. Psi-Tech not only bans those from other RV schools but they also ban their own kind! See the logic in that? There are those who stay in the Light and those that only feel safe in the Dark! Not much growth occurs in the dark! In Truth and Light, Valtra!
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Having had the honor of being banned from Psi-Tech, more than once, for trying to ask simple questions about RV I agree with Glenn. I think in times to come being banned by Psi-Tech’s infamous VP may be seen as a badge of common sense. If you are going to have an open forum than you need to be able to deal with the public, newbies, skeptics, and people from other schools wanting to discuss RV. If you are not prepared to do that with some grace and dignity, than it is a poor business decision, and the forum should be
password protected for students and members only.
Psi-Tech’s management is out of control and is sadly their biggest enemy. RV is here to stay, and will grow and develop regardless of any single faction. RV has a relative few career viewers with a wealth of experience, and many new and talented students coming up in the ranks in every school. It is sad that Art Bell has chosen to align himself with Psi-Tech, maybe he has just made such a big deal about Ed’s perdictions he is too embarrased to let Chief Joe on the air in rebuttal. Based on the quantity and poor performance of sensational predictions it has made Psi-Tech is not RV’s most representational poster child. Both RV’s elders and the new comers are out performing Psi-Tech but only the really dedicated are interested. Sadly Psi-Tech gives the skeptics plenty of ammunition to try and discredit RV.
After our last volley with Miss Joni, where we posted Psi-Tech chat logs in response to her posts on Pru’s, Larger U BBs, that proved that she had lied regarding her involvement in publishing a vicious attack on Glenn and the HRVG, I have chosen to ignore them, unless they come after us again, they are not worth my time.
There is allot of good work to be done, and only one group in the entire RV community unwilling to maintain open communication, I think that speaks for it’s self. Rosie has been viewing for five months and her most recent sked (Kahiko Kane) should prove to the most die hard skeptic that RV works. There are lots of exciting targets to pursue, avenues of consciousness to explore, and dedicated viewers who want to share knowledge for the growth and development of the field so lets get on with it.
Aloha Yaana
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I became interested in RV from reading Courtney Brown’s Book, then reading transcripts of Ed Dames on Art Bell. I’ve read them all, read everything at Psi-Tech site, ordered the "Module 1" Tape, and my family has begun practicing. Since then, I followed the threads of discussion on Art Bell’s BB, and have tried to sort out the alternate views to Ed Dames’s end-of-the-world predictions, which has led me to your level-headed & open-minded site, as well as to other RV community sites. I’m relieved that the wider RV community has not come up with the frightening scenario that Psi-tech has.
I am more interested than ever in learning to RV, but now I am somewhat at a loss as to how to proceed. The idea of video-taped instructions seems attractive, and the actual instructions on the introductory tape from Psi-tech seemed good to me.
My question for you, and anyone else who cares to comment, is, where do you recommend I go from here? In spite of the limitations of the Psi-tech organization, would their "Module 2" tapes still be a valuable introduction? What other training options are available to the student who cannot relocate to Hawaii?
Thank you again for your respectful attitude to different schools of Remote Viewing.
Peace, Linda
Aloha Linda
Aloha Linda,
Wow how to proceed, not a big decision but one that require a bit of thought. The Crv and SRV manuals are available for downloading Free of charge. Since TRV is based on the CRV documents you might perfer to continue with the original course material in that theme. There are heaps of people now that have sites where you can get your questions answered, Tech support is required!
At our site we have Dick who is skilled in Farsights’ SRV, and CY reads the board here and he is a Pro from TDS. If you log onto Steve’s stargate listserver at
www.findmail.com/list/stargate/ that will give you access to Macmoneagle, Buchannan, Smith and several others. These guys are very polite and help just about anyone who asks. They are actually the leaders in the RV field period.
My advise is to continue to educate yourself on who is doing what, learn what they are doing, and align your training with your best judgement on what produces results for you.
Here at HRVG we have an on-line training section about to open. If you look at the work posted here and it interests you, you may consider joining us.
The good news is at HRVG no one stands out front with the big sandwhich board proclaiming the end of all life on the planet :)
ALoha Glenn
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Linda..
A number of our people took Prudence Calabrese’s short 3 day introductory course and had some great results.
I sat in and watched and was very impressed. We will soon be posting some of the sessions done by students after only 2 days of training.
Of I the systems that are based on the original Army CRV protocols (CRV, TRV, SRV, TDS) I think Pru’s adaptation is the easiest to learn and gives the best results.
You might want to find out when she is giving a class near you and make plans to attend. Or better yet, wait until she returns to Hawaii to teach her long course. You can get a Hawaiian vacation and learn RV too. One guy from the mainland (Mason) did that in August and I think he was very happy.
We have friendly debates about sex and aliens, but everyone here was to say the least EXTREMELY IMPRESSED with Pru.