Beaconing Feedback

Beaconing Feedback

How did you do on the special beaconing target? I feel that targets with some strong obvious gestalts are best for training. Something happening! Some vivid smells or sounds, or some emotional impact, or visually interesting features.

Earlier this week I was sent to cover (I’m a reporter) the departure of an Air Force C-130 to East Timor peacekeeping duty. They bussed all of us out to the runway where they were refueling this big airplane. The smell of jet fuel and aircraft exhaust were quite strong. There was a generator hooked up the aircraft that was making quite a racket. Jets were roaring by.

I was there for an hour, inside the plane looking at the pallets of supplies, talking with air force personnel. While the cameraman was shooting video, I stepped aside and cued the target. I did the cue several times and realized that I was immersed in the target field.

OT students Mark and JP both sent me very good sessions on this target. Congratulations to both of them.

collateral stuff

Reply From: Dick To: Dick 1999-09-26

Mark gave me data about water nearby.. In fact there is a "channel leading to deeper water" next to the runway… Keehi Lagoon and Pearl Harbor.

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Reply From: Banshee To: Dick 1999-09-26

Congratulations Mark and JP! Good job!

Unfortunately I did not. Dick, just out of curiosity, did you also cover a story by the Iolani Palace…cause that’s where Banshee went :(

oh well, some days chicken some days feathers.

Never Thirst

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Reply From: J.P. To: Dick 1999-09-26

Dick,

It was an interesting target, in fact I did it because I wanted to see how a beaconing target would feel. It was a little tougher than the regular targets we shoot with the OT program, but it was worth the try. Thanks for cueing it, it was fun all the same.

J.P.

How did you do on the special beaconing target? I feel that targets with some strong obvious gestalts are best for training. Something happening! Some vivid smells or sounds, or some emotional impact, or visually interesting features.

Earlier this week I was sent to cover (I’m a reporter) the departure of an Air Force C-130 to East Timor peacekeeping duty. They bussed all of us out to the runway where they were refueling this big airplane. The smell of jet fuel and aircraft exhaust were quite strong. There was a generator hooked up the aircraft that was making quite a racket. Jets were roaring by.

I was there for an hour, inside the plane looking at the pallets of supplies, talking with air force personnel. While the cameraman was shooting video, I stepped aside and cued the target. I did the cue several times and realized that I was immersed in the target field.

OT students Mark and JP both sent me very good sessions on this target. Congratulations to both of them.

Data

Reply From: Sita To: Dick 1999-09-27

Congratulations to mark and JP!!!

Dick…there is an in-box at Glenn’s for you with the skeds to this target. Mine is in there…

Aloha

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Reply From: Ed To: Dick 1999-09-27

Dick, Was the date Sept 20, 1999 incorporated as part of the cue? Just wondering if dates can be incorporated in setting up a cue. Ed

How did you do on the special beaconing target? I feel that targets with some strong obvious gestalts are best for training. Something happening! Some vivid smells or sounds, or some emotional impact, or visually interesting features.

Earlier this week I was sent to cover (I’m a reporter) the departure of an Air Force C-130 to East Timor peacekeeping duty. They bussed all of us out to the runway where they were refueling this big airplane. The smell of jet fuel and aircraft exhaust were quite strong. There was a generator hooked up the aircraft that was making quite a racket. Jets were roaring by.

I was there for an hour, inside the plane looking at the pallets of supplies, talking with air force personnel. While the cameraman was shooting video, I stepped aside and cued the target. I did the cue several times and realized that I was immersed in the target field.

OT students Mark and JP both sent me very good sessions on this target. Congratulations to both of them.

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Reply From: Dick To: Ed 1999-09-27

Dick, Was the date Sept 20, 1999 incorporated as part of the cue? Just wondering if dates can be incorporated in setting up a cue. Ed

Hi Ed…

when we cue targets at HRVG we generally use a Primary Cue / Secondary Cue / Temporal Cue.

Think of it as What/ Where / When

The primary cue was the C-130. The secondary Cue was Hickam Airforce base… and the temporal cue was the date this occured. Sept. 20, 1999. I could have used the temporal cue "photographic timeline," which would have placed the viewer there at the moment that frame was snapped.

So you can do it either way. If you know the date of an event, you can use that as the temporal cue. If it is a photo, you can cue it to "photographic timeline." That doesn’t mean you view the photograph… it means you put the viewer there when the picture was taken.

Intent is all important. I was there at the scene. I drank it all in, and intended for the viewer to come back to this resonating field in the collective, the refueling of this plane. What struck me as I stood there- the noise and the fumes. OT student Mark gave me a very nice sked with lots of data about noise and fumes.

Aloha

Dick

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Reply From: Ed To: Dick 1999-09-28

Hi Dick, Thanks for the feedback. My understanding in target preperation and cuing is coming from the TRV platform and your comments certainly make sense to me. I basically follow the same steps in setting up a cue, but am pleasantly surprised that an actual numerical date can be used as part of a cue. I’ve always used qualifiers such as present, next, past and so on as a ‘temporal compass’ to qualify time in a cue. TRV has never really encouraged the use of numerics in a cue, the reason being that numerics are an abstract human construct(according to their method), and abstracts do not work. As a result, Sept 20, 1999 does not exist as a pattern of information in the collective unconscious(again according to their method). Well, I’ve been around this BB now for 2-3 months and the work I’ve seen produced by HRVG is simply oustanding. HRVG protocols are quite different from what I’m familiar with, but they sure do produce quality data, and the specifity of the data is certainly impressive. Thanks, Ed

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Hi Ed… when we cue targets at HRVG we generally use a Primary Cue / Secondary Cue / Temporal Cue.

Think of it as What/ Where / When

The primary cue was the C-130. The secondary Cue was Hickam Airforce base… and the temporal cue was the date this occured. Sept. 20, 1999. I could have used the temporal cue "photographic timeline," which would have placed the viewer there at the moment that frame was snapped.

So you can do it either way. If you know the date of an event, you can use that as the temporal cue. If it is a photo, you can cue it to "photographic timeline." That doesn’t mean you view the photograph… it means you put the viewer there when the picture was taken.

Intent is all important. I was there at the scene. I drank it all in, and intended for the viewer to come back to this resonating field in the collective, the refueling of this plane. What struck me as I stood there- the noise and the fumes. OT student Mark gave me a very nice sked with lots of data about noise and fumes.

Aloha Dick

Hey Glenn

Reply From: Dick To: Ed 1999-09-28

Glenn,

Did you once tell us that one of the things you and Joni at Psi Tech agreed on was that if you could put the exact date in a target ID it seemed to produce better data?

What about that notion that dates (numbers) have no meaning in the collective or to our subs?

Time is certainly an interesting concept. Ed, something I forget to mention. We also use the terms "near past" and "near future" as temporal locators. Near past is defined as since recorded history. Near future is the next 90 days.

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Reply From: Glenn To: Dick 1999-09-28

Aloha Dick,

If you have an exact time/date use it. It is important to the formalization of the intent in the targeting process.

Aloha Glenn

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Reply From: Ed To: Dick 1999-09-29

Hi Dick, Got it and noted. Thanks, Ed

Glenn, Did you once tell us that one of the things you and Joni at Psi Tech agreed on was that if you could put the exact date in a target ID it seemed to produce better data?

What about that notion that dates (numbers) have no meaning in the collective or to our subs?

Time is certainly an interesting concept. Ed, something I forget to mention. We also use the terms "near past" and "near future" as temporal locators. Near past is defined as since recorded history. Near future is the next 90 days.

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Reply From: Ed To: Glenn 1999-09-29

Hi Glenn, It would seem to me that a numeric reference to time should be just as valid as any intangible characteristic at a target site. Both are concepts which embrace specific qualities which we use as a reference in a given context. Surely hungry, overwhelmed, the number 7, the year 1862, vertigo, all have a history and enough morphic resonance to have ‘made a mark’ in the collective unconscious and established an identity there for us to ‘download’. I’m going to start using dates and times in cues (where appropriate) and see what comes up. Thank you and Dick for the input. Ed

Aloha Dick,

If you have an exact time/date use it. It is important to the formalization of the intent in the targeting process. Aloha Glenn

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Reply From: Dick To: Ed 1999-09-29

Glenn mentioned that using an exact date is important in the "formalization of the intent" of the targeteer.

Let me give you an example. Let’s say you want the viewer to go to the sinking of the USS Yorktown at Midway in WWII.

You would write the cue:

USS YORKTOWN / SINKING EVENT / MIDWAY / JUNE 7, 1942

That does not necessarily mean that in the collective there is a date attached to that event, or that your sub thumbs thru some calender in the matrix to find this date and the event. There isn’t a calender in the collective.

There have been several USS Yorktowns commissioned by the U.S. Navy. When the targeteer formally states

The USS Yorktown, Sinking Event, Midway, June 7 1942, he or she is formalizing in their intent and in their conscious awareness that they are intending the target to be THAT carrier which sank in WWII on that date. Using the date clarifies the intent in the targeteer’s mind, and therefore in the collective. It makes a pathway to the correct pattern of energy that is the target.

The INTENT of the targeteer is everything, and everything you can do to clarify that intent helps the viewer.

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Reply From: Ed To: Dick 1999-09-30

Hi Dick, Understood–Thank-you for clarifying. Ed

Glenn mentioned that using an exact date is important in the "formalization of the intent" of the targeteer.

Let me give you an example. Let’s say you want the viewer to go to the sinking of the USS Yorktown at Midway in WWII.

You would write the cue: USS YORKTOWN / SINKING EVENT / MIDWAY / JUNE 7, 1942

That does not necessarily mean that in the collective there is a date attached to that event, or that your sub thumbs thru some calender in the matrix to find this date and the event. There isn’t a calender in the collective.

There have been several USS Yorktowns commissioned by the U.S. Navy. When the targeteer formally states The USS Yorktown, Sinking Event, Midway, June 7 1942, he or she is formalizing in their intent and in their conscious awareness that they are intending the target to be THAT carrier which sank in WWII on that date. Using the date clarifies the intent in the targeteer’s mind, and therefore in the collective. It makes a pathway to the correct pattern of energy that is the target.

The INTENT of the targeteer is everything, and everything you can do to clarify that intent helps the viewer.

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