Bilocating

Sita…

we’re at the point where we can get there JUST FOR AN INSTANT! How to hold on to it? It is so stunning that the thrill of seeing the target in full clarity shocks you off the signal line.

Then its back to the damn drawing board. You have to wait until tomorrow.. work a new target.. hope you get in the groove, work it thru to S-5 and wait for that image to form. Then try to manage it and hold on.

I measure my full color experiential events in mere seconds… :-(

But I swear to God, a two second look at target, really SEEING it, is worth more than 12 hours of probing and sitting at a desk downloading "ideas" about the target.

I remember every target where I’ve had that visual clarity. It stays with you.

We’ve got to keep plugging away. This works. Imagine being able to hold it and hang out at a target for up to 40 minutes like Glenn!

This is an interesting question. Is bilocation strictly a consciousness-related issue, or does something measurable actually happen at the target location when we "go" there.

I recall the experiment that Ingo Swann did at SRI where he was given the job of RVing a magnetometer buried deep underground. It was noted that the readings the machine produced changed markedly during the session. Somebody then purportedly joked to Ingo that "You should try to shut it down." If I’m remembering the story right, the device gave up the ghost a few moments later.

That gets into a whole other ball of wax, but the point is, that there was a measurable phenomenon at the target site during the session. How measurable is it? By what means? Is it possible that a person at the target site would notice anything? Since the mechanism by which RV and all psi access info is independant of time, could this potentially explain a number of other parapsychological phenomena? (Hauntings, etc.)

Not saying so, just rambling. :-)

-John

John,

If this is true (and it is) then not only is remote viewing possible, then remote influencing is also possible.

John, If this is true (and it is) then not only is remote viewing possible, then remote influencing is also possible.

Aloha fellow RVers!
John’s memory of Ingo Swann’s experience is just as I remember reading it. This brought to my mind what I read in Robert Monroe’s "Journeys Out Of The Body". I know that OBE’s are not the same as RV but the correlation to this topic of bilocation and remote influencing is interesting. He reported an attempt by himself to try to get the attention of his sister while out of body, thousands of miles away at her home. While he was "there" he tried waving his "astral" hands, shouting (in his mind), etc. but nothing would get anyone’s attention. His sister was playing cards with some friends at the time. Then he had the idea to try to pinch her with his "astral" hand, and he did, on her right side just above her hips. All of a sudden she jumped out of her chair, screaming in pain. This shock sent him immediately back to his body and as soon as he was back "in" he got up and made entries into his journal. The next day he called her and asked her if anything unusual had happened the night before. The story came out as they talked and he wasn’t surprised that she had felt something "hit" her in the side. After he explained his attempt to attract her attention she got on the plane and flew all the way to him to discuss the incident further and to show him a huge painful bruise on her right hip. In his attempt it was only a gentle pinch, but to her it had been as if he had punched her as hard as he could…
There are many amazing episodes in this book but this one has always stood out strongest in my mind to this day…
Aloha,
grasshopper

This is an interesting topic. The mystics reported the presence of an etheric body that permeates and overlays the physical body…..Once the individual’s consciousness is attuned enough to the spiritual overlay, it is possible to focus the awareness solely in the etheric body and control it’s "movement" in the etheric matrix. This is what bilocation has always meant to me…..when the etheric body along with its accompanying consciousness (the subconscious) shifts its awareness away from the physical vehicle to another time, place and event. There is a saying, "Energy flows where the attention goes". When the conscious mind is attuned enough to the subconscious, then you have a conscious experience of this happening. How do we know that this doesn’t happen frequently? Only that our conscious mind is so trained on the physical plane that it can’t conceive of the other dimensional aspects of itself…until there is the intent or the impetus through altered states whether consciously induced or induced through traumatic events…It is interesting to me that most people become aware of this aspect of their being after a near-death trauma. It is well documented that when a person experiences severe trauma, they automatically shift into an altered state of mind…ususally theta or even delta ( ? comas ) and sometimes just alpha.

In each of my best sessions, I felt I bilocated such that I had a full sensory experience of the target and lost awareness of my physical body…in the session on Danion Brinkley’s Near-Death Experience, I feel I bilocated into Danion’s body because I felt the electrical jolt, the separating of consciousness, the pulling through the chest / solar plexus region as the etheric body left the body…the wind, the spiraling, the brightness…it was quite an interesting experience….I did not merely witness this event….had I not had a howling cat by my door, I know I would have gone to the other side….

In the Russian Revolution session, I was on the balcony with a group of policemen with guns…I heard the deafening roar of the mob, smelled the gunpowder, felt the cold….saw the cloud of my breath as I looked on at the scene…In those moments of experiencing another time and place, I am not aware of the physical body, where it is, what it is doing…that aspect is in automatic….then when I snap back, I have to remember that visit to the target and reconstruct my experience… I don’t remember anything I wrote or drew in the session….I have to read the session to know what is there…

So what does this indicate? A bilocation of consciousness? or a physical bilocation? Both?

It is fascinating to say the least! Aloha, Mana

Some of the students in the advanced classes speaks freely of their experiences with bilocations to target at theta. Long before I heard about remote viewing, I recalled reading a series of books called the Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East, by Baird Spalding. The purported "masters" in the book explained the process of "bilocating." They claim that when one is spiritually attuned and able to raise the vibrational level of the body physical, the atomic particles that comprise the material substance can be altered temporarily so that "bilocation" takes place..that a body can move from one point to another..regardless of distance. That is what I thought bilocation was. As I worked one of the targets from this week’s posting, I recall a vivid movement of my consciousness while in S5..it was so clear and crisp. I have had poor eyesight from the time I was very young..but in this session, I recalled seeing the grain of dirt particles on the ground…the bright colors of this particular scene and the movement was like a slalom ride…fast, yet I…whichever "I" it was…was able to maneuver between the objects as though "it" knew precisely when to turn. Did I bilocate? Or did I merely project my consciousness outside my physical being..if I projected my consciousness outside my being, was it an astral projection? I was me..at least the me I think I know…but then I was also the consciousness moving rapidly toward something…all this happened in the flash of a micro moment. Is this what those of you who are bilocating to target doing? Also…if you are bilocating to target…would the details reflect in the sked? This was so clear…so vivid…so temporary…I couldn’t hold it…

Aloha, Sita

Holding onto the bi-location experience is one of the things I remember someone talking about once in the HRVG chat room. I think Glenn or someone said that a healer from Hawaii, could send energy into a person while they were RVing and help them extend the time they could spend at a target. So I think the thing that needs to be explored is how can a person (a remote viewer), by themselves, energize their being so that the S5 bi-location experience can be prolonged.

I also remember reading in one of Carlos Castenada’s books that "energy" was always discussed and that Don Jaun said "saving energy was of prime importance to his group of seers, because it enabled them to expore the unknown in depth" he also said "the average man/woman lucks-out when it comes to energy and exploring the unknown because they have used all their available energy to maintain their view of life… and have nothing left when it comes to exploring the vastness that’s out there".

J.P.

:-)))

>>>>

Sita… we’re at the point where we can get there JUST FOR AN INSTANT! How to hold on to it? It is so stunning that the thrill of seeing the target in full clarity shocks you off the signal line.

Then its back to the damn drawing board. You have to wait until tomorrow.. work a new target.. hope you get in the groove, work it thru to S-5 and wait for that image to form. Then try to manage it and hold on.

I measure my full color experiential events in mere seconds… :-(

But I swear to God, a two second look at target, really SEEING it, is worth more than 12 hours of probing and sitting at a desk downloading "ideas" about the target. I remember every target where I’ve had that visual clarity. It stays with you.

We’ve got to keep plugging away. This works. Imagine being able to hold it and hang out at a target for up to 40 minutes like Glenn!

Hello,

Thanks, Dick for your response..and John/Grasshopper. I recall reading that same passage on Ingo and I have also read Monroe’s "Journeys out of Body." I sincerely believe that remote influencing is possible and may have been successfully accomplished in several circles.

I contend that a very fine line exists between distinctions on remote viewer bi-locations, projections out of body and astral projections…in all three aspects..the consciousness splits and some may even have recollections of being in dual consciousness. I do not feel we can apply a finite answer that can be validated because we are dealing with intangibilities…I wonder if one (either bilocations, projections or oobe use the same methodology at the sub level)…

I have discovered a very curious thing…when targeteering, I find that I can move into the target and experience the event of that moment…I feel a rapid movement although I have physically remained still.. and there is a sensation of heaviness accompanied by a vivid view of the target…I sometimes become dizzy or nauseous because I inadvertently "spin into the target…are others experiencing this? Dick..Valtra…Glenn?

Aloha

Sita

When I look at photos sometimes, or even watching something like a travel film on television… sometimes, just for an instant I am there. I can sense smells, the feel of the air, other subtle things. I just sort of naturally project into it now…a result of remote viewing training.

This is an interesting topic. The mystics reported the presence of an etheric body that permeates and overlays the physical body…..Once the individual’s consciousness is attuned enough to the spiritual overlay, it is possible to focus the awareness solely in the etheric body and control it’s "movement" in the etheric matrix. This is what bilocation has always meant to me…..when the etheric body along with its accompanying consciousness (the subconscious) shifts its awareness away from the physical vehicle to another time, place and event. There is a saying, "Energy flows where the attention goes". When the conscious mind is attuned enough to the subconscious, then you have a conscious experience of this happening. How do we know that this doesn’t happen frequently? Only that our conscious mind is so trained on the physical plane that it can’t conceive of the other dimensional aspects of itself…until there is the intent or the impetus through altered states whether consciously induced or induced through traumatic events…It is interesting to me that most people become aware of this aspect of their being after a near-death trauma. It is well documented that when a person experiences severe trauma, they automatically shift into an altered state of mind…ususally theta or even delta ( ? comas ) and sometimes just alpha.

In each of my best sessions, I felt I bilocated such that I had a full sensory experience of the target and lost awareness of my physical body…in the session on Danion Brinkley’s Near-Death Experience, I feel I bilocated into Danion’s body because I felt the electrical jolt, the separating of consciousness, the pulling through the chest / solar plexus region as the etheric body left the body…the wind, the spiraling, the brightness…it was quite an interesting experience….I did not merely witness this event….had I not had a howling cat by my door, I know I would have gone to the other side….

In the Russian Revolution session, I was on the balcony with a group of policemen with guns…I heard the deafening roar of the mob, smelled the gunpowder, felt the cold….saw the cloud of my breath as I looked on at the scene…In those moments of experiencing another time and place, I am not aware of the physical body, where it is, what it is doing…that aspect is in automatic….then when I snap back, I have to remember that visit to the target and reconstruct my experience… I don’t remember anything I wrote or drew in the session….I have to read the session to know what is there…

So what does this indicate? A bilocation of consciousness? or a physical bilocation? Both?

It is fascinating to say the least! Aloha, Mana

I hit the wrong key and the old message posted…hehe..

Thank you, Valtra for that great dissertation on bilocation and your experiences. I recall reading material about those who had experienced trauma and even NDE’s where a separation of the physical being occurs and they find themselves hovering over their bodies or floating and looking down. It amazes me that they can recall with such accuracy, the procedures that occurred while they were out of the body.

I wonder, as we advanced deeper into theta with remote viewing practice, how one could validate this occurrence..we are bridging two separate forms of realities…those of us who have experienced this event know it is real..those who haven’t have conjecture to play with…I can imagine that for some, it is a frightening experience. My niece in chicago called me one day crying…she related that she woke up and thought she died because she was outside her body. Here’s the strange thing..she said she tried very hard to get back inside her body but couldn’t..she felt like her body was dead weight, but she couldn’t move (waking paralysis?. She demanded I give her an explanation because her church does not teach those ideas…imagine how many more people are like her….

Thank you for sharing..this is truly a fascinating topic…

Ahui hou,

Sita

Seems to me that I recall reading that the Soviets emphasized Remote Influencing in their psi program a lot more than the Americans did (or admit to). :-)

-John

Hello, Thanks, Dick for your response..and John/Grasshopper. I recall reading that same passage on Ingo and I have also read Monroe’s "Journeys out of Body." I sincerely believe that remote influencing is possible and may have been successfully accomplished in several circles.

John,

I think "admit to" are the key words here.

Banshee

Seems to me that I recall reading that the Soviets emphasized Remote Influencing in their psi program a lot more than the Americans did (or admit to). :-)

-John

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