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Yes.. we should have posted the data before event. :-(
An impressive sked
Sita really nailed that one Dick. It’s amazing to see how well the HRVG protocals work with predicting the future. I hope she gets a change to do alot more prediction skeds, she has a knack for it.
J.P.
P.S. Sita, if you can add any commnets to what Dick posted I’m sure we would all appreciate them.
Use this thread for comments/questions about Sita’s work on the future event.
Yes.. we should have posted the data before event. :-(
Congrats Sita :)
Very well done, I really like your sketch of the city in the distance with the Ala Moana round building. Yes Dick, it would have been better if the data was posted in advance, let’s keep that in mind for next time, we are learning as we go along.
Aloha, Jim!
WOW!!! What a Session!
Sita, this is an excellent sked! You really had tremendous clarity! Congrats! Love, Mana
One more thing…
For the record.
I was the ONLY person who knew the target cue. I placed the cue in an envelope, and sealed it with heavy tape. I signed my name and the data across the tape.
AFTER I reviewed Sita’s sked, I opened the packet. So I can vouch for chain of custody.
I have only posted the highlights of this session. As we all know… you can go thru a sked with a fine tooth comb and find lots more good data.
Glenn has the orginal sked and we will post the whole thing.
Re: One more thing…
For the record. I was the ONLY person who knew the target cue. I placed the cue in an envelope, and sealed it with heavy tape. I signed my name and the data across the tape.
I meant to type the DATE (that target was cued) across the tape.
Re: RV’ing a future event?
Remote perceiving a future event is viable, as Sita’s session indicates. Research conducted at the Rhine Institute (http://www.rhine.org) validates the retrieving of viable and congruent data when RV’ing future events.
James Spottiswoode (www.jsasoc.com/index.html)
et al. from the Laboratories on Fundamental Research have also performed similar experiments. There has been a plethora of postulates and opinions on the subject of remote viewing the future. I have seen many colloquies on this subject from RV’ers on several "RV lists." However, there are many questions to be asked and many to be answered. For example, is a viewer’s accession of congruent target data inversely affected by the distance from present time in the eventline? Are there parallel events in the future affecting a viewer’s analysis in the present?
Will Popeye marry Olive Oyl? Remote perceiving the future….what a concept!
Re: An impressive sked
Hi All,
This is Sita on Stealth email..hehe. Wow…even "I" didn’t know it was that congruent!!! As I worked the sked, I simply followed the protocol structure with the nagging sentences that haunts me in class sessions.."have no ideas or pre-concepts of what the target may be, work each protocol as it is, do not be concerned about the last protocol, nor the next one..keep your wits about you…" Does that sound familiar?
thanks to all and especially to Dick for taking the time to analyze and share the results.
Re: Congrats Sita :)
Its seems nothing has been learned at all,its has been begged by many that such a event be done in predicting an upcomming event be targeted and first we get one that can’t be shown in advance because it may be untasteful(It would have been) but now we find out that at the same time this one was done by a group ,and one out of the group has a claimed hit after the fact..if the intent is to build egos’ and confidence of the ones in this BB room then job well done , but in as far as proving to others of skeptical feelings,that some members of the guild have capabilities in predicting future events you have again failed in learning from previous attempts.
I know this will draw some responses similar to the last time but it doesn’t matter,most who really know me know that I believe in Remote Viewing its just that I don’t like to see games being played to inflate ego’s or in trying to impress others.The one out of the group that done this work may very well have done a marvelous job and very well succeded in getting it right, but again if so it was all wasted in proving to the skeptics because of waiting before publishing the event until something occurred that would match the session. I could go on and on but thats not what you want to hear so I will close in saying another oppurtunity was missed again.
Re: Congrats Sita :)
Aloha Capt. Nimo,
I would have to say a couple of things in response to your posting.
The Guild does a lot of work. There is no way at this time that the guild could publish all that we do.
WE FUNCTION AS A GUILD UNDER A SYSTEM OF "CHAIN OF CUSTODY" FOR CONTROL AND ACCESS TO TARGET INFORMATION.
The target in question here is one that was worked by the Guild as a Special Target selected and targeted by Dick AKA Zoltan. The Chain of Custody is secure. The target was administered properly and skeds collected and logged.
In this instance of all the target work collected Sita’s was the most telling.
This website is our forum to quantify our activities and pass information primarily intended for the Guild itself.
We have organized ourselves "publicly" over the last 2 years and are constantly trying to improve those things that we do. The introduction of the Targeting Committee as the targeting body and the keeper of the keys to the targets is an improvement others could learn from.
IN your post you stated that
"If the intent is to build egos’ and confidence of the ones in this BB room then job well done"
My reply is that the intent is to build Strong Egos and instill Confidence in our Guild members.
In the Guild archives are thousands upon thousands of pages of work done by a total of over 60 resident viewers and a host of online viewers completed over the last two years. If you take one viewers work over the last two years and lay it all out and examine the quality of the work you will find a growth in skill and performance. This is related to the development of that Viewers confidence and ego.
Ego and Confidence are directly related to RV performance. Ideally Ego just short of Prima Dona makes for a pretty darn good Remote Viewer. (This doesn’t mean we are short on Prima Dona’s :)
The Guild considers Remote Viewing of future targets to be experimental in nature. We approach them the same as a validation target. Chain of custody is enforced and the work is maintained as all other work is in the Guild. Any suspicion of "Sked Padding" would be questioned from all corners of the Guild. Integrity is important to us all.
I do not view the work as an opportunity missed because it was not published last month. I view the work as a pretty good sked by a pretty good viewer. We simply do not have the resources or time to put everything up on the site that we do.
Organized specific efforts take time and resources; we will do this in our up-coming Skeptics Test. We constantly challenge each other and try our best.
Well there you have it, two viewpoints on the table. Capt. Nimo as always your opinion is welcome here and is good food for thought. The questions raised will be discussed within the Guild and will no doubt bring about some good changes in future efforts on prediction targets. As always Aloha.
Glenn
Re: Congrats Sita :)
Here is how the Police Standoff thing went down.
First, let me say that this was not done as a public demonstration to prove Remote Viewing, or to prove that you can predict the future with remote viewing.
It was done out of curiosity.
On Jan 5, 1999 I (by myself) cued the target:
BCEW-TRSU
Police Standoff/Man with a gun/ Island of Oahu/ Near future
subcue: The next hostage situation or armed police standoff that generates live local news coverage.
I sealed the envelope with mailing tape, signed the seal and dated it. I wrote the ID on the outside, and gave it to Glenn. Glenn gave the ID to students to work.
Several weeks later I went over to Glenn’s house for the weekly Sunday brunch and looked thru the skeds. At this point THE ENVELOPE WAS STILL SEALED. When I saw Sita’s sked I said, "Well now this interesting."
I went over it with Glenn and finally opened the sealed envelope. This was mid January. We got the bearings of the Annex A azimuths and plotted them on a map of Oahu. We noticed one of her sketches that showed a city skyline, which looks just like Honolulu as seen from the Pearl City area.
We all remarked that this was interesting. We had a lot of other things on our plate at this time, other stuff to scan.. other sessions to analyze. (We were and are working a target for a government agency which is a bit more important.)
As a remote viewing junkie you tend to put the last session aside and say, "Okay, where’s my next target?"
So the Police Standoff session went in the file and we went on to other things.
Last Friday I got a call from Jim, who said "Have you seen the news?" I am a newscaster/reporter, but Friday is my day off. An armed standoff was underway and being reported live at 10 PM.
On Saturday I went to work and our top local story was the capture and arrest of the man with the gun in Pearl City. He had held police at bay for 15 hours.
Here is a link to KITV transcript of the news story: (Its after Monica, and a fatal traffic accident)
The next day I went to Glenns and dug out the session and looked at it again. We agreed it was worthy of posting.
You can believe it or not. Those of us who remote view know how well Sita did. How a future event can be perceived is beyond me….. but I saw all this with my own eyes.
We ARE about to do a public demonstration with the goal of proving in public that data can be obtained via remote viewing. See my post on Protocols for HRVG Skeptics Experiment.
Aloha
Dick
Re: Congrats Sita :)
Thank you for your cordial response Glen and lets hope one of these days we can have a good prediction posted that I would consider waving in front of many skeptics and also other so called Remote Viewers who will not attempt to publish their results.I know these sessions suit your needs just fine,but for me to argue their validity to other skeptics it doesn’t fit the bill especially when they are posted after the events and also are completely controlled within the guild,ie: Dick knew the target, and evidently assigned the co-ordinates,don’t get me wrong Dick may very well be the most honest person around but he’s not quite un-involved in the guild and its success.Will bug out now and let you all rest and respond in kind without any other interruptions ,good luck all.
Re: Congrats Sita :)
>but for me to argue their validity to other skeptics it doesn’t fit the bill especially when they are posted after the events and also are completely controlled within the guild,ie: Dick knew the target, and evidently assigned the co-ordinates,don’t get me wrong Dick may very well be the most honest person around but he’s not quite un-involved in the guild and its success.
Hi Capt. Nimo..
you are absolutely correct… In our skeptic test we have a guy who DOESN’T BELIEVE this can work. He is in no way affiliated with the guild. He is going to cue the target. He’ll retain possession of the target photo, sealed and notarized.
We will get only the ID.
A third party judge (also skeptical and also not affiliated) will determine if we are able to correctly describe the target.
This should be happening in a few weeks from now.
Aloha