Ed’s & Joni’s Art Bell Sessions. ROTFL

Jim,
go ahead and say what you really think. No need to mince words. :-)

Granted, the sessions done by Ed and Joni seem to show less target contact and useful data than the 40 or so student sessions posted on our site…

But the good news is this: TRV students will be able to perform just as well as Ed and Joni in no time at all.

I wouldn’t take part in such a personal attack, but hey- It was Joni that started the personal attacks on Glenn and HRVG, and Ed’s the one who goes on national radio and claims to be the only repository of RV knowledge. The way I see it, anyone who tells millions of people that remote viewing validates claims the world is due to end NEXT MONTH!! as the 6th Seal of the Biblical Apocolypse comes to pass! Or wait, is it the Killshot solar flare?! No wait… it was the alien plant pathogen that killed all green things in the spring of 1998…. Anyone who claims all that is fair game.

Maybe I should make one thing clear to people who are probably right now writing flaming responses to my previous post.

I do NOT claim to be a great Remote Viewer. I consider myself a student who have just about started to learn the skill of RV.

However, I do know some things about the importance of a rigid protocol structure, which includes a solid chain of custody, independent analysis, corroboration of data etc. etc.

I find it repulsive that people who proclaim the end of the world in all imaginable (and unimaginable) ways possible, have the audacity to do so without providing the facts.

In this case, we did get the session work and it was of such poor quality (as deduced from Psi-Tech’s own analysis) that one cannot but wonder if the plant pathogen, CME Kill Shot event, North Korean nuke event, etc. were based on similarly shaky session work.

How on earth can they claim 100% accuracy with sessions like the one on Art Bell?

I would not engage in this sort of discussion if they would admit that they are not 100% all the time. But I guess that sort of a statement won’t sell any tapes so I won’t hold my breath.

I do believe that TRV is a viable tool to learn remote viewing and I am sure that many of the students have done great work, but the sad fact is that the people who have managed to get good results get overshadowed by the ridiculous statements made by the management of Psi-Tech.

I wish all students and professionals of Remote Viewing good luck in their endeavors and that their success is accompanied by a grain of humility.

Aloha, Jim

Jim, go ahead and say what you really think. No need to mince words. :-)

Granted, the sessions done by Ed and Joni seem to show less target contact and useful data than the 40 or so student sessions posted on our site…

But the good news is this: TRV students will be able to perform just as well as Ed and Joni in no time at all.

I wouldn’t take part in such a personal attack, but hey- It was Joni that started the personal attacks on Glenn and HRVG, and Ed’s the one who goes on national radio and claims to be the only repository of RV knowledge. The way I see it, anyone who tells millions of people that remote viewing validates claims the world is due to end NEXT MONTH!! as the 6th Seal of the Biblical Apocolypse comes to pass! Or wait, is it the Killshot solar flare?! No wait… it was the alien plant pathogen that killed all green things in the spring of 1998…. Anyone who claims all that is fair game.

Aloha Jim,

I have looked at the sessions, but have not put them through any analysis. I also did not see much of a theme in the work, but again I have not done any analysis.

I will say this, at least they posted some work related to an announcement by the company. That is a good step towards some kind of Peer review starting up within the community.

I would like to see your comments on the work put up by others as a review or evaluation of the work in question with a temper on the emotional aspects.

Aloha Glenn

Jim I think you have made a good point here. It has just been such a long road this last year with so many ends of the world being tossed out at us.

When you think of the people who have packed and moved to sanctuaries, We know that Maj Dames’ sanctuary is really Maui Polynesia. When we look at the stress all this has caused between us and them over basic RV issues. It can wear you down to anger.

HRVG sets the standard, we post our work, analysis, hell we post it all. That sets the standard!! We see other sites now stick their necks out too.

You know what is involved to just keep the chain of custody, work targets, log, file, scan, analyze, review etc. It is a lot of work. We do it right. We also do it on a shoestring budget. Lets focus on continuing to set the standard for good honest hard work.

I believe Psi-Tech will fade from the end of the world stuff soon. The timelines are rushing by. No predictions have come to pass. They will have to concentrate on developing their viewers as a priority instead of shock predictions to sell tapes, it’s that or they will just fade away.

Aloha Glenn

Jim wrote:

I do NOT claim to be a great Remote Viewer. I consider myself a student who have just about started to learn the skill of RV.

Jim… I think that any objective analysis of your posted work on the Scaffold/Execution of Capt Wirz and also your published work on the Swat Laser/Haleaka, plus the MJ001 plane crash- compared to the posted PSI tech sessions would come out well in your favor.

This is exactly what I said, after viewing these sessions-

They are too neat & precise, and look like they started with `Giza data’ and worked backwords, filling everything in!!

Ridiculous, that anyone takes these two seriously, after posting such trivial nonsense!

Steve T

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Hey Mike…
great cartoons! On his last interview with Art Bell Ed even said, "You know the guy with the sandwich boards in the cartoons, saying the world’s about to end? Well he just walked out of the cartoon."

Biblical Armageddon (the 6th seal has been opened) is due next month.

LOL>>>>How can Ed and Joni be critized for analyzing their own data? I thought TRV was (according to Dames’ last Art Bell interview) ‘direct knowledge’ that required no analysis. There seems to be no consistency to anything Dames says.

I also find it curious that, since on October 13 Dames faxed Bell and said he needed to get on the air right away, that he is not listed in the upcoming guests now that Art is back. Maybe Art took a look at their TRV of his plight and saw them for what they are?????

Kay

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Very funny cartoons, humor is good to keep things in perspective:)

Aloha Yaana

What was even funnier was when Art asked Ed if someone
could find the 6th seal.

Some of the best material of Ed’s appearances begin with "No, Art……"

Rich

c’mon Kay, who else is going to tell Art about his "parts"? Don’t you believe they are from the future…and that the people who developed them are even now doing the developing? But, how did they survive the many faces of death bearing down on us?

Be sure to guard your fertilizer from the Martian theives.

Rich