GOOD QUESTION

GOOD QUESTION

Glenn,

the following question was sent to me as private email.
I am going to post it here for your consideration.
Here is the question (actually several questions) and then I will answer as best I can….but I really defer to Glenn on this one.

QUESTION: (copy of private email)

________

I’ve noticed that the method the Guild uses is called SPONID. What is

most noticeable is that, in SPONID, you do not record the motion of the
ideogram. However, in TRV and SRV you do record the motion. I believe
that in TRV, the motion helps you to construct the Stage 3 sketch. In
that respect, recording the motion seems necessary.

In SRV, you record the motion as well. According to the manual, you do

not use the motion in the Phase 3 sketch. Apparently, you don’t use the
motion description for anything.

Questions: In SRV, is it necessary to record the motion? Also, do you

feel that SPONID is a superior way to decode an ideogram? Lastly, is
there a self-correction process in SPONID as there is in TRV and SRV? I
hope my questions are clear.
——
Here is my answer:
I usually detect motion in the next phase of the protocols. If you look at my ROLLER COASTER session posted under sessions.. you will see that I picked up the motion under a portion of our protocols called PLAYFAIR.
As for what we probe for under SPONID…. there are two areas that I feel are superior to SRV or TRV.
One is PL: Is the target simplex or complex? (A tree in a field would be a simplex target. The space shuttle would be complex.)

The other area that gives you a good "feel" for the target right away is A: static or dynamic? Is the target sitting there, or is it moving. Is it off or in operation?

And now Glenn will clarify. :-)

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Dick To: Dick 1998-06-01

Oh my…
something just dawned on me. We may be talking apples an oranges. The person who posed the question about MOTION may have not exactly been referring to dynamic (moving) motion. He may have been referring to motion as describing the lines of construction at the target.

If you mean… curving up… peaking… across horizonal, vertical down… And where do were probe to perceive the physical lines of the target?

Heck we just look and SEE all that and then draw it! It is after all remote VIEWING.

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Yaana To: Dick 1998-06-01

I’ve noticed that the method the Guild uses is called SPONID. What is most noticeable is that, in SPONID, you do not record the motion of the ideogram……

Yes we get motion first in Sponids, on static or dynamic as you said Dick, but he biggest difference is that in this system of RV we are actively training to percieve and retrieve visuals and sensory data, not just impressions. But impressions of movement or anything else could be recorded at any time. Therefor many things will be different, later in NIMO, in the phase line motion/dynamics are collected again after achieving closer target contact, these are all before S3 consolidation.

We do not decode Sponids as TRV or SRV does, we probe them for data.

As for superiority, it is better to look at different rather than better, there are many ways up the mountian, getting to the top is all that matters, not which path.

Aloha Yaana

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Dick To: Yaana 1998-06-01

We looked at one of Glenn’s skeds today at his house during the weekly breakfast. (A humbling experience)
He had the motion (of an object entering earth atmosphere) in his Visual Ideogram.

And in Valtra’s sked on the STS-40 space shuttle anomoly…she had the lines of motion correct in her visual ideogram. This is the first 2 second look at the target.

I guess it all goes back to the saying.. "Your ability to remote view is only limited by the quality of your being."

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Lei To: Dick 1998-06-01

Guest viewer here… excellent perspective… from where I humbly sit. The evolution of your being… mind/heart/spirit… is your avenue to a truth beyond the mind/ego illusion. And is reflective on how you use the talents for which you already possess and are honing into. E Malama Mai…Blessings, and much aloha on your ventures upward and onward here. Thank you for allowing me to share in all your experiences.

"Your ability to remote view is

only limited by the quality of your being." We looked at one of Glenn’s skeds today at his house during the weekly breakfast. (A humbling experience) He had the motion (of an object entering earth atmosphere) in his Visual Ideogram.

And in Valtra’s sked on the STS-40 space shuttle anomoly…she had the lines of motion correct in her visual ideogram. This is the first 2 second look at the target.

I guess it all goes back to the saying.. "Your ability to remote view is only limited by the quality of your being."

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Glenn To: Dick 1998-06-01

Aloha Dick, here are some quick answers to your questions;

QUESTION: (copy of private email) ________

I’ve noticed that the method the Guild uses is called SPONID. What is most noticeable is that, in SPONID, you do not record the motion of the ideogram. However, in TRV and SRV you do record the motion. I believe that in TRV, the motion helps you to construct the Stage 3 sketch. In that respect, recording the motion seems necessary.

Answer!

We do not record the motion of the ideograms because in beginning student work we see a constant repetition of similar motion and movement. The production of the ideogram occurs in a very short spanse of time. It is very quick. The expenditure of the energy in the arm is the encoding mechanism not the motion. Later after one professionalizes their technique we see the ideograms change on their own to be more representative of the nature of the target.

Question! In SRV, you record the motion as well. According to the manual, you do not use the motion in the Phase 3 sketch. Apparently, you don’t use the motion description for anything.

Answer!

Not in a beginning student!

Question!

In SRV, is it necessary to record the motion? Also, do you feel that SPONID is a superior way to decode an ideogram? Lastly, is there a self-correction process in SPONID as there is in TRV and SRV? I hope my questions are clear. ——
Answer!

If the sponid was produced properly it can be rechecked numerous times. There is no built in self-correction process. The data is there if the sponid was produced properly. It will still be there every time you evaluate the work. It will be there for any other viewer that probes your work.

Special Note! Recording or realizing the motion of the ideogram is intended to take the viewer from a 2D mindset to a 3D grasp of target fundamental gestalt. This mental modeling is a very valuable tool but at this early stage of target contact it may cause a misperception of the target nature because there is no relative scale of the aspect realized in the ideogram and the overall target scope. Aloha Glenn

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Glenn To: Lei 1998-06-01

Aloha Lei,

Thank you for a very nice reflection. We must know in our deep inner core what we actually are. Darkness is easily healed by light and aceptance. It is one of the easiest cures for our troubled being. Honesty in understanding what we actual think, courage to accept that which we know, and that which we do not. Remote viewing forces us to match performance in our cognizant thinking with our potential as a sentient lifeform. Aloha From Oahu Glenn.

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Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Lei To: Glenn 1998-06-01

Re: "Remote viewing forces us to match performance in our cognizant thinking with our potential as a sentient lifeform."

It is in this that I aspire to hope and have faith in those who guide those who are learning. Cognitive thinking is inspired by allowing free-will thinking. Each has their own cleansing healing process and experiences from which to evolve from. Therefore, each will experience differences in physical, emotional, mind, spiritual experiences/evolution through such… within the spectrum of truly wanting to go through the process of learning and evolving beyond the sentient lifeform.

You present the sentient lifeform process from which to grow from … most appreciative to see, and understand that which is relevant within the spectrum of the metaphysical and beyond. Kudos.

Whether remote viewing or just in analysis of their being’s place in It all within the flow… so to speak. May the inspiration of your thoughts, words, and lessons reconnect those who aspire to retain the pure aloha of our connected spirits… for the benefit of all in the One. :-)

Aloha Lei, Thank you for a very nice reflection. We must know in our deep inner core what we actually are. Darkness is easily healed by light and aceptance. It is one of the easiest cures for our troubled being. Honesty in understanding what we actual think, courage to accept that which we know, and that which we do not. Remote viewing forces us to match performance in our cognizant thinking with our potential as a sentient lifeform. Aloha From Oahu Glenn.

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Dick To: Glenn 1998-06-01

Whoa…
Glenn, are you saying that if I execute a spontaneous ideogram, YOU can probe IT and extract accurate target data?

I’m going to have to think about that one for a while.

Re: GOOD QUESTION

Reply From: Rose To: Dick 1998-06-01

Dick,

Somehow I get the feeling that Glenn could extact accurate data from a .
Rose Whoa… Glenn, are you saying that if I execute a spontaneous ideogram, YOU can probe IT and extract accurate target data?

I’m going to have to think about that one for a while.

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