Hemi-Sync, etc.

Hi John..

There are a number of so called theta tapes on the market. I have one called ZYGON Theta which starts with a pong sound in each ear back and forth… followed by running water.. then spacy sounds and musics.

Pru was big into one called DEEP LEARNING. I purchased that one by the internet for about $16.

Some of the HRVG folks make their own theta type sound tapes and CD’s. They are helpful to get you cooled down, but not required.

You can also listen to some soothing music. Glenn uses bagpipes and heavy metal!

The advanced students are learning some specific techniques (PRIMING) to get the primary consciousness down to high theta. At that point it (primary consciousness) gives to the keys over to the sub… and data from your subconscious awareness is played in your brain. YOU SEE THE TARGET!

John,

To elaborate on what Dick said. I am an advocate for hemi sync technology when it is both made and used correctly. First of all if your conscious mind does not trust your sub (which if you are operating in beta it doesn’t) and you initially use these tapes you will be driven down to theta, often deep theta, this will often include surges of energy unlike anything you have previously experiences vivid images,visual energy, and perhaps even an oobe. My first bilocation occured as a result of the use of the "deep learning" tapes made by Kelly Howell. I also find her deep meditation tape which leads the state of consciousness to an interface point with delta even more effective. there is one thing to realize however, there is a reason that you do not normally function at these levels of consciousness. natural psychics function in alpha, the best ones nearing theta (I think I’m accurate here.) They have learned to create a greater connection to their subconscious, this may either have occured as a result of meditation or simply something they have discovered on their own naturally. The problem with heavy reliance on hemi sync tapes is that if the conscious mind does not weant tobe in theta it figures out how to override the effect of these tapes… perhaps not the full effect but it becomes increasingly more difficult. I began to realize this so I began using only those that include the hemisync waves beneath a guided meditation, this serves many purposes… it keeps the conscious mind busy, opens a greater level of trust… and it gives you a method to achieve the same results without the tapes which is your ultimate goal anyway.

There is perhaps another problem also, the hemi sync tapes create by Monroe and others are the result of years of research, anyone can package a tape with out any testing call it a "Theta" tape and hang a sign. It is also relativiely easy to mask subliminal messages… a legit company most likely would not do this. Not that these are ineffective… I personally like to know what I’m listening to first. I AM NOT PARANOID! (who laughed?) The tapes are a tool, it seems, a nice warm down to start an rv session, a tool and therefore not an end in themselves. It might be to your benefit to treat them as such. This is just my opinion. Find the truth for yourself. My recommendations: monroe, hemi- sync (I think there is also a company called brain sync)– the Kelly Howell series… I think there are almost 100 different varieties of these. There is a demo on the monroe institue website you can try (I haven’t), also a combination of classical music and heavy metal (the conscious mind get’s tired quickly) work well. I also recommend that if you are a musician (as I am) and can play piano or really any instrument (as long as it’s something complex for about 1/2 hour straight… you will probably drop to at least higher alpha. Artwork also seems to allow sometimes an even deeoer shift of consciousness. Good luck. By the way Glenn which heavy metal groups do you use?

May the force be with you,

Craig

Hi John.. There are a number of so called theta tapes on the market. I have one called ZYGON Theta which starts with a pong sound in each ear back and forth… followed by running water.. then spacy sounds and musics.

Pru was big into one called DEEP LEARNING. I purchased that one by the internet for about $16.

Some of the HRVG folks make their own theta type sound tapes and CD’s. They are helpful to get you cooled down, but not required.

You can also listen to some soothing music. Glenn uses bagpipes and heavy metal!

The advanced students are learning some specific techniques (PRIMING) to get the primary consciousness down to high theta. At that point it (primary consciousness) gives to the keys over to the sub… and data from your subconscious awareness is played in your brain. YOU SEE THE TARGET!

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Thanks.

What I’ve got is a package for my PC called "cooledit" (which, despite the name, is quite sophisticated). It allows you to make audio tracks of the type we’re describing. My experimenting with it so far has been just using white or pink noise… which is a bit wild. But it certainly does induce a whole other state when you’ve been on it for a bit. I found myself stumbling around a bit afterwards.

-John

Hey, I actually try to listen to Heavy Metal before doing a session since I find it relaxing. My girlfriend is not of the same opinion however. It seems paradoxical that music like that can relax you but it seems to work better for me than most of the new age crap that a lot of people force themselves to listen to just because they think it will make them more spiritual. Anyway, whatever works for you is probably what’s best anyway.

My cool down favorites are: Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin.
(I’m still young, but somehow trapped in the old school of Heavy Metal) See ya in subspace! Jim

John,

To elaborate on what Dick said. I am an advocate for hemi sync technology when it is both made and used correctly. First of all if your conscious mind does not trust your sub (which if you are operating in beta it doesn’t) and you initially use these tapes you will be driven down to theta, often deep theta, this will often include surges of energy unlike anything you have previously experiences vivid images,visual energy, and perhaps even an oobe. My first bilocation occured as a result of the use of the "deep learning" tapes made by Kelly Howell. I also find her deep meditation tape which leads the state of consciousness to an interface point with delta even more effective. there is one thing to realize however, there is a reason that you do not normally function at these levels of consciousness. natural psychics function in alpha, the best ones nearing theta (I think I’m accurate here.) They have learned to create a greater connection to their subconscious, this may either have occured as a result of meditation or simply something they have discovered on their own naturally. The problem with heavy reliance on hemi sync tapes is that if the conscious mind does not weant tobe in theta it figures out how to override the effect of these tapes… perhaps not the full effect but it becomes increasingly more difficult. I began to realize this so I began using only those that include the hemisync waves beneath a guided meditation, this serves many purposes… it keeps the conscious mind busy, opens a greater level of trust… and it gives you a method to achieve the same results without the tapes which is your ultimate goal anyway.

There is perhaps another problem also, the hemi sync tapes create by Monroe and others are the result of years of research, anyone can package a tape with out any testing call it a "Theta" tape and hang a sign. It is also relativiely easy to mask subliminal messages… a legit company most likely would not do this. Not that these are ineffective… I personally like to know what I’m listening to first. I AM NOT PARANOID! (who laughed?) The tapes are a tool, it seems, a nice warm down to start an rv session, a tool and therefore not an end in themselves. It might be to your benefit to treat them as such. This is just my opinion. Find the truth for yourself. My recommendations: monroe, hemi- sync (I think there is also a company called brain sync)– the Kelly Howell series… I think there are almost 100 different varieties of these. There is a demo on the monroe institue website you can try (I haven’t), also a combination of classical music and heavy metal (the conscious mind get’s tired quickly) work well. I also recommend that if you are a musician (as I am) and can play piano or really any instrument (as long as it’s something complex for about 1/2 hour straight… you will probably drop to at least higher alpha. Artwork also seems to allow sometimes an even deeoer shift of consciousness. Good luck. By the way Glenn which heavy metal groups do you use?

May the force be with you,

Craig

Hey,

I think heavy metal works because it tires your conscious mind out. It often has a deep emotional aspect above the usual level of thinking. And its so convuluted w/ synchronization that it keeps your mind busy sorting it out. What I was talking about was not new age stuff in its literal sense but scientifically developed tools. Which also happen to contain some new age music. Anything that works to shift the consciousness. Do I use gregorian chants. NO! But they could probably work. As could staring at crystals. Meditation is extremely effective if done correctly.

I’m also young (18) but as a musician (piano, guitar, sax, and clarinet) I pretty much go for any type of music. Stairway to heaven is a great song to use in fact I have a feeling that Led’s mind was chemically altered when he wrote that one. I haven’t had any luck with rap… i suppose after three hours of hearing about macarena, you want to meet her already. eh? she pumps me up… arrrgh… also…It has also been suggested especially by Leia (Yaana) that sex, specifically orgasmic energy is extremely effective. It makes women hot. Also can induce oobe’s. I’ll leave you to find that one out for yourself. But definitely read her editorial. c-ya.

Aloha,

Craig

…It has also been suggested especially by Leia (Yaana) that sex, specifically orgasmic energy is extremely effective. It makes women hot. Also can induce oobe’s. I’ll leave you to find that one out for yourself. But definitely read her editorial. c-ya.

hummmm..this is going to follow me around a while can see. In class one day when we were discussing cool downs and focus. One of the questions posed to Glenn, partley tounge in cheek and partly serious, had to do with the use of sex as a cool down. The idea was to exhaust the mind and satiate the body so there would be no distractions from total focus on target. It is not a recommended RV procedure.

People like to experiment, especially when the word sex gets involved. Personally I think a Tantric RV club would just be a justification for wanting to focus on the first word rather than he second..LOL Until consistant proficiency is demonstrated with the protocols extracarricular experimentation is disocuraged as a distraction. Besides until you have established a baseline of performance you have no criteria by which to seperate delusion from fact.

The real issue is attention focusing skills, and data management. External aids could be useful too help you realize you have the ability or experience a specific state the first time, but can become superstitious crutches.

Aloha, from the road Yaana

Dang, that’s too bad. :-)

The Monroe Institute strongly recommend GROUNDING after you come out of these states – get squarely back into beta – when you say "stumbling around" it sounds like you might benefit from a drink of cold water and some physical exercise (a walk, etc). This was drummed into me before and during the TMI gateway…..just trying to be helpful……….

Grounding is essential after listening to Hemi-sync tapes or any other altered state inducing material. One of the best grounding methods is to soak in a tub of water with about 2-3 cups of sea salt dissolved it! Aloha, Valtra

The Monroe Institute strongly recommend GROUNDING after you come out of these states – get squarely back into beta – when you say "stumbling around" it sounds like you might benefit from a drink of cold water and some physical exercise (a walk, etc). This was drummed into me before and during the TMI gateway…..just trying to be helpful……….

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Joe McMoneagle talks a lot about the Monroe Institute’s "Hemi-Sync" tapes in _Mind Trek_. I’ve got a shareware program that claims to be able to do a similar thing- directing frequencies in each ear to "create" a third, delta/theta level frequency that the mind then "tunes" to. Just wondering if any of you have much experience with using these kind of "helps", and what your opinions are.

-John

Dear John and friends,

I attended a Gateway program at TMI and have to say that when used in the proper conditions the Hemi-sync tapes (there are a bunch of them of various kinds, even one designed to help you to remote view) are very very helpful.

So I recommend them strongly to anybody interested by this sort of tool.

But in the same time you have to keep in mind that both Bob Monroe (the conceptor) and Joe McMoneagle (one of the thousands of users) have always considered these tapes just as crutches, you’re called to put aside as soon as you can :)

Hope this helps.

Jean-Luc

Hello Jean-Luc!
Great to see you are popping in to some of the same places as me! I will try and keep in touch directly, and have a chat.
Ciao, DOUG