Is TIME an event?
Question: To Anyone with TIME on their hands…
Do you think that time is tied to events? Without events would there be any time? Does "time" require someone to perceive the events, or does it exist independantly?
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Time definitely expands and contracts.
When I am at work (bored, wanting to be home) I can take a phone call… write a story… walk around the building… have a conversation with a co-worker… read the newspaper… use the restroom…
All of this and 3 minutes will have ticked by on the clock.
When I am at home before work, I can read-one-piece-of email-get-dressed and oh my God a half hour has flown by and I’m late for work.
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There is no such thing as time. It’s an arbitrary concept conceived only by linear mind. And Rolex :)
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Rose,
I know that’s the current "position" — that time is just a left brain idea…but what if that isn’t true? Could there be more to time than just "an accounting system"?
There is no such thing as time. It’s an arbitrary concept conceived only by linear mind. And Rolex :)
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Angelina, I think this board is supposed to be reserved for RV discourse but let me just say that my opinion comes from "experience" not current position. When the L brain dialogue is silenced and one moves into "other" levels of consciousness, time, as defined by consensus, just isn’t there. :)
R
Rose, I know that’s the current "position" — that time is just a left brain idea…but what if that isn’t true? Could there be more to time than just "an accounting system"?
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Rose, I think time is perfectly related to RV. I figure the better our relationship with time, the better able we’ll be to operate or RV in "time".
First, regarding time as an object or an isolated phenomena definitely seems the wrong way to go. Science is already inundated by time-space theories. Those theories seem limited, though, when it comes to relating things like telepathy. Einstein theorized that the speed of light was the limit in nature as far as moving through time-space goes. But, reportedly, telepathic communications have no such limit.
So that leads me to theorize that the force behind telepathy, which I would assume to be consciousness, is not bound by the "laws" of time-space. What if consciousness is the mother of time-space? the creator, so to speak. That would fit nicely into the many systems of religious belief. But instead of going that far I’d like to explore consciousness and its relationship to time.
We already know time to be an apparently ceaseless progression of events. However, we’ve also had experiences (some of us) that indicate time to be more than this. An example would be precognition. This example in particular implies that we are not limited by time in the conventional sense.
Does that mean we can see into the future? Possibly. But that sounds like the old linear school of thought. I’d like to posit that consciousness (our very own) is in a relationship to time-space in the same way that time-space (the 3 or 4 dimensions of it) is related to a plane existence (Flatland). And, currently, our experience of the time-space world is limited to a cross-section of that which is consciousness. We’ve somehow localized our experience. But through use of RV and the like we are somehow moving out of that locality.
That, to me, seems to be a workable explanation for all these so-called anomalies of the time-space continuum. Getting into RV really brings this issue to the fore. It’s like there is another level out there which we are capable of attaining. Should we do it? I think that’s why were here, doing RV that is.
What doesn’t fit for me is, why would we ever limit ourselves in the first place? Why aren’t we using skills like RV the same way that we use our abilities to drive a car? Did we forget? Maybe that’s one of the costs of being in a time-space body and experiencing this time-space world.
Danny
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Danny & Rose,
Yes, RV opens many questions about time. Clearly there is a left brain version of linear time — but I’m also finding that there is more to time that meets the "left brain" eye. This "other side of time" was what I was wanting to spark conversation about. I think that there is an aspect of time which is like consciousness. Not only can you move around in it, but it can move around you. It is navigatable (with the right "tools.")
But my question is: Does time have a level of reality IN ADDITION to the left brain perceptions of it? And if time can be altered…wouldn’t you like to know more about that?
Rose, I think time is perfectly related to RV. I figure the better our relationship with time, the better able we’ll be to operate or RV in "time".
First, regarding time as an object or an isolated phenomena definitely seems the wrong way to go. Science is already inundated by time-space theories. Those theories seem limited, though, when it comes to relating things like telepathy. Einstein theorized that the speed of light was the limit in nature as far as moving through time-space goes. But, reportedly, telepathic communications have no such limit.
So that leads me to theorize that the force behind telepathy, which I would assume to be consciousness, is not bound by the "laws" of time-space. What if consciousness is the mother of time-space? the creator, so to speak. That would fit nicely into the many systems of religious belief. But instead of going that far I’d like to explore consciousness and its relationship to time.
We already know time to be an apparently ceaseless progression of events. However, we’ve also had experiences (some of us) that indicate time to be more than this. An example would be precognition. This example in particular implies that we are not limited by time in the conventional sense.
Does that mean we can see into the future? Possibly. But that sounds like the old linear school of thought. I’d like to posit that consciousness (our very own) is in a relationship to time-space in the same way that time-space (the 3 or 4 dimensions of it) is related to a plane existence (Flatland). And, currently, our experience of the time-space world is limited to a cross-section of that which is consciousness. We’ve somehow localized our experience. But through use of RV and the like we are somehow moving out of that locality.
That, to me, seems to be a workable explanation for all these so-called anomalies of the time-space continuum. Getting into RV really brings this issue to the fore. It’s like there is another level out there which we are capable of attaining. Should we do it? I think that’s why were here, doing RV that is.
What doesn’t fit for me is, why would we ever limit ourselves in the first place? Why aren’t we using skills like RV the same way that we use our abilities to drive a car? Did we forget? Maybe that’s one of the costs of being in a time-space body and experiencing this time-space world.
Danny
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Hey Angelina & Danny,
In today’s class Glenn said the Sub can’t read or count. In RV it’s the sub that’s doin’ the seeing. So, I guess, the sub can’t tell time.
I’ve had experiences where I "travelled" somewhere and had to find a clock or newspaper to get time bearings. So I guess time exists in that dimension. It is an undisciplined procedure so I don’t know how I do it, or understand how it manifests.
Aloha Rose
Danny & Rose,
Yes, RV opens many questions about time. Clearly there is a left brain version of linear time — but I’m also finding that there is more to time that meets the "left brain" eye. This "other side of time" was what I was wanting to spark conversation about. I think that there is an aspect of time which is like consciousness. Not only can you move around in it, but it can move around you. It is navigatable (with the right "tools.")
But my question is: Does time have a level of reality IN ADDITION to the left brain perceptions of it? And if time can be altered…wouldn’t you like to know more about that?
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But my question is: Does time have a level of reality IN ADDITION to the left brain perceptions of it? And if time can be altered…wouldn’t you like to know more about that?
Yes, how do you go about altering time?
Is altering our perception of time good enough?
Is your everyday experience real or a hallucination?
Does it matter?
…Danny….