No more Hit and Runs from Cecil.

I will take your bait and make one more response to another post about my being critical of HRVG’s claims that may or not be true. I know again as has been allready done twice by your guild members that the substance contained in this post will be not be answered but again verbal attacks on my not being very proficient in spelling(I could use spell ck,but my reason for not doing so is my own business) or my use of proper grammer will be under taken again.

The last time I posted on your BB was to respond to the arrogant one who used the above excuse to ridicule me and to avoid answering my questions about your skeptic test.
Well lets review a few things,you attack Ed Dames’s predictions because he made them public in advance and none panned out or at least havn’t yet. , but you claim to be the only one to make a prediction that has come true (its really not what I call a hit,maybe close)but nothing about it was made public intil after something happened that could possibily be close to your prediction(how many differant ones was made) (or was it a after the fact).

You run a skeptic’s test(your words/HRVG) then say its not really a test.We have more than one copy of the target (picture made)that blows part of controls. After it all done(sessions on skeptics target)HRVG claims hits by one member on target in envelope but also on a hidden target(clue number is Mil. designation of airplanes) and also claims that many other made hit on hidden target, but no sessions were posted for all to see before targets were disclosed(this again could be miss-leading)(faked)(or select which ever sessions fit). Giving you the benefit of doubt in trying to have so many controls to prove your skeptic tests were up and above board that it really does just the opposite the way it ends up but then you blame the skeptic,why wasn’t the results of the more proficient workers(whatever they are called)posted before the disclosure was made about the skeptic target(and secondary) then it would have at least looked a little more above board.

Next we again have claims of your own prediction of the school incident in Colorado,after the fact(may have been legit,but how do we know)would you believe ED Dames if he used this type of approach.
So here we go again,HRVG doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone, we the members of the Guild know what we can do and we do it all the time, look at all of our sessions posted, how could anyone dare question us or our leader ,take our word for it.
Well I will take the kinds of sessions posted on Pru’s new BB over what I see here anytime even if the results don’t seem as exciting as HRVG’s claims. I will continue to post targets on that BB and see if any of your Guild members have the guts to work them and post their work before I disclose the target,but I doubt it(because I will tell it like it is)(ah,come on Dick,Jim show your skills,oh, you too Glenn [with two n’s,I forgot how I was jumped on by HRVG for leaving one n off]
Well I gotta run for now got more targets to scan,and yes there are other BB’s than HRVG’s so I do make posts on them many time in response to your posts or claims, I know this is the type of response you wanted ,why else would you have baited me into posting a response,but don’t let my poor schooling in the use of grammer and spelling fool you or your arrogance that higher levels of education makes you any better than others( I applaud anyone who advances their schooling efforts)but the flaunting of such in the face others during a debate show a lack of character.

Cecil,

You are long winded in controversy but never reply to our response to your implications. This makes the alarms go off. It is the conflict that draws you out not the truths.

You have neither been fair nor analytical.
nuff said…

Come on Cecil, just learn how to remote view yourself. It’ll take some time and there are several people out there who teach it. Instead of relying on others to prove it to you. We have explained ad nauseum how the Skeptics test protocols worked and you are the only one who has a problem with them. The prediction sked was notarized in advanced, and if you want to argue with the notary public, go ahead, that’s not our credibility on the line. This has again been explained to you over and over again.

Explaining over and over again to you what we do and how we do it start feeling like beating a dead horse.

So again, my advice is, learn how to do it and prove to yourself if it works or not. I’m sick and tired to try to prove to people that it works, if they don’t pay attention and respond to the ACTUAL things we write in response to your questions.

That’s it.

I will take your bait and make one more response to another post about my being critical of HRVG’s claims that may or not be true. I know again as has been allready done twice by your guild members that the substance contained in this post will be not be answered but again verbal attacks on my not being very proficient in spelling(I could use spell ck,but my reason for not doing so is my own business) or my use of proper grammer will be under taken again. The last time I posted on your BB was to respond to the arrogant one who used the above excuse to ridicule me and to avoid answering my questions about your skeptic test. Well lets review a few things,you attack Ed Dames’s predictions because he made them public in advance and none panned out or at least havn’t yet. , but you claim to be the only one to make a prediction that has come true (its really not what I call a hit,maybe close)but nothing about it was made public intil after something happened that could possibily be close to your prediction(how many differant ones was made) (or was it a after the fact).

You run a skeptic’s test(your words/HRVG) then say its not really a test.We have more than one copy of the target (picture made)that blows part of controls. After it all done(sessions on skeptics target)HRVG claims hits by one member on target in envelope but also on a hidden target(clue number is Mil. designation of airplanes) and also claims that many other made hit on hidden target, but no sessions were posted for all to see before targets were disclosed(this again could be miss-leading)(faked)(or select which ever sessions fit). Giving you the benefit of doubt in trying to have so many controls to prove your skeptic tests were up and above board that it really does just the opposite the way it ends up but then you blame the skeptic,why wasn’t the results of the more proficient workers(whatever they are called)posted before the disclosure was made about the skeptic target(and secondary) then it would have at least looked a little more above board. Next we again have claims of your own prediction of the school incident in Colorado,after the fact(may have been legit,but how do we know)would you believe ED Dames if he used this type of approach. So here we go again,HRVG doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone, we the members of the Guild know what we can do and we do it all the time, look at all of our sessions posted, how could anyone dare question us or our leader ,take our word for it. Well I will take the kinds of sessions posted on Pru’s new BB over what I see here anytime even if the results don’t seem as exciting as HRVG’s claims. I will continue to post targets on that BB and see if any of your Guild members have the guts to work them and post their work before I disclose the target,but I doubt it(because I will tell it like it is)(ah,come on Dick,Jim show your skills,oh, you too Glenn [with two n’s,I forgot how I was jumped on by HRVG for leaving one n off] Well I gotta run for now got more targets to scan,and yes there are other BB’s than HRVG’s so I do make posts on them many time in response to your posts or claims, I know this is the type of response you wanted ,why else would you have baited me into posting a response,but don’t let my poor schooling in the use of grammer and spelling fool you or your arrogance that higher levels of education makes you any better than others( I applaud anyone who advances their schooling efforts)but the flaunting of such in the face others during a debate show a lack of character.

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This is in response to your post on Pru’s BB along with your post here.But thats where you are wrong Glenn ,I didn’t fade away ,I made a response to your post and instead of providing an explanation ,as always you or one of the others respond to my post without answering the questions I raised. I don’t think I want to get into a running dialogue about who’s got the best grammer or who can spell certain words or who has the most diplomas. I find it very funny that you accuse me of not be one who can be trusted, lets see you back that up with facts,or is this the way you play refuse to answer to facts that may show problems pointed out about your claims and call the one who points them out untrustworthy because they are right. Show me a prediction that you made public before it happened that came true,make public data from sessions that others in the group worked before a target is revealed that was from any other source such as my self that wasn’t approved by you. I have two targets cued that no one has worked yet they are coded and when disclosed will reveal they haven’t been changed or that any trickery is involved, they are simple targets simply cued ,got what it takes ,its up to you?
Here are the two targets 0518 1404 and S7TH I399

Typical response learn it your self ,we don’t have to prove anything, well then don’t make claims that you can’t back up without leaving to many open ends, everything has to be made so difficult ,a simple prediction made public before it happens doesn’t require a notary now does it, also I’m sure you know the difference between a request for a signed registared receipt and the signed returned registared receipt, the later proves someone was sent something and they got it, but then they have to admit to what they got neither has happened yet, need I go on and point out other problems with some of the claims,probably not ,none have ever been answered yet.

This BB doesn’t want any type of critism whether its in trying to be constructive or not,it does just what the groups that it attacks does blows more smoke.

ho hum

Cecil, why is not the seal of the notary of the state of Hawaii good enough for you? It works just fine for the courts and big business. That is just my point you want the world to stop and "just for you" "on your terms" substantiate the evidence. Cecil there are many things that we have not published or have not followed up on because we are way too busy. The Prediction Sked is solid and Notorized. And too date this is the only example of future RV that is Bona Fide. Do you know of another? Please tell us if you do. In a test of the evidence in Court, the documents with the Notary Seal, the testimony of the Notary, and the post event evidence would win.

Remember it was HRVG that shut down the U of Texas Skeptics site when we worked Target #19 beyond their expectation.

Glenn

That seems to be the general consensus about RV’ng ,too bad.

You represent the skeptics well.

Cecil;

Break some new ground.

You’re already performing targeting for RV items of iterest. Take the next step and learn to view targets too. Prove to yourelf wether or not it ‘works’.

Oh…I forgot…

As a septic your own intuitive ability will work agnaist you and you will prove to yourself that RV does not work, with such profficiency that you’ll beat the odds of Not getting any good data.

[the old sheep / goats study]

…never mind…

Tom

The future prediction WAS made public BEFORE it happened. Is it our fault that you weren’t around to see it for yourself?

Jim

——————————————————————————– This is in response to your post on Pru’s BB along with your post here.But thats where you are wrong Glenn ,I didn’t fade away ,I made a response to your post and instead of providing an explanation ,as always you or one of the others respond to my post without answering the questions I raised. I don’t think I want to get into a running dialogue about who’s got the best grammer or who can spell certain words or who has the most diplomas. I find it very funny that you accuse me of not be one who can be trusted, lets see you back that up with facts,or is this the way you play refuse to answer to facts that may show problems pointed out about your claims and call the one who points them out untrustworthy because they are right. Show me a prediction that you made public before it happened that came true,make public data from sessions that others in the group worked before a target is revealed that was from any other source such as my self that wasn’t approved by you. I have two targets cued that no one has worked yet they are coded and when disclosed will reveal they haven’t been changed or that any trickery is involved, they are simple targets simply cued ,got what it takes ,its up to you? Here are the two targets 0518 1404 and S7TH I399