Plane Crash!

Plane Crash!

Dick,

There are several things I would like to say about what you put together in this prediction experiment.

1st… A DC-9/MD-80 going down within 12 hours of your posting your work on the website is a bit too much synchronicity for me to discount.

2nd… Go over all your work from tasking to publishing and identify every thing that was done wrong. Don’t be shy just do it.

3rd… Go over all your work from tasking to publishing and identify everything that was done right. Pay close attention to S-2 Phonics, S-7 Phonics, and the S-3’s. Look at your S-3’s without using any of the labels provided by the viewers.

4th… Honestly examine the data and tell me if your Working Notes audit back to specific data.

The future is a bear to RV. The big jets don’t crash everyday. Your posting on the same day but before the crash makes me think something is amiss in how this target was worked into its finished product.

Regardless, I will say that you came pretty close there to doing something that would have made some huge ripples throughout the RV community.

I guess I will have to keep an eye on you now :)

ALoha Glenn

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Glenn To: Glenn 1999-06-02

Dick!

Before I forget…

Here are your working notes…

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WORKING NOTES for Target T1B1-D6C4
The target involves something in motion eminating thrust or exhaust.
An aspect of the target is airy, gaseous (or cloudy) and natural.
An aspect of this target is complex, hard, manmade, dynamic.
The target may involve an aircraft.
There are angular aspects to the target.
There are circular features associated with this target.
There are mechanical sounds associated with this target.
The sound of wind or rushing air is present at this target.
There are humans seated in rows at this target.
They may be clouds or vapor at the target.
The sound of a BOOM is heard at the target.
There is the sound of an engine whirring or whining at this target.
A dull pop or soft bang may be heard at the target.
There are screams and high pitched voices at this target.
There is a sense of fear and panic or distress at the target.
A person may speak over a microphone which amplies his voice at the target.
The air is filled with smoke and possibly fire.
Crashing and screeching sounds are associated with this target.
The temperatures range from cool to hot.
An aspect of the target is gaseous.
The smell of fuel is present at the target.
Blood is present at the target.
Chemical smells and tastes are present.
Pilots may be present at this target.
This target involves an aircraft in flight.
There is an explosion, in the air, which occurs over water with land nearby.
The land is mountanous and near water.
There are possibly sirens associated with this target.
There is fire at the target.
There may be small particles, possibly burning, falling through the air.
There are things sparking at the target.
There is a sense of warning associated with this target.
There are radio transmissions at the target.
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Here is your Scenario…

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SCENARIO:

A passenger aircraft experiences an incident in flight involving an explosion and fire. This occurs near the
Hawaiian Islands, possibly near the island of Oahu, while the aircraft is over water but near land. There are injuries involving bleeding. The timeline for this event is the near future.

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The rule in Analysis is as follows…Low level Analysis… The Scenario CANNOT SAY ANYTHING THAT IS NOT SUBSTANTIATED IN THE WORKING NOTES.

THE WORKING NOTES CANNOT SAY ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN AT LEAST 2 VIEWER SESSIONS (DIFFERENT VIEWERS).

When Analysis was done on any of the other targets such as the Sao Paulo Bank Building fire…Did your Scenario say Brazil? NO …CAUSE IT WASN’T IN THE CORROBORATED DATA OF AT LEAST TWO VIEWERS.

SO SPLAIN TO ME OAHU? SPLAIN TO ME HAWAIIAN ISLANDS?

Dick I am not popping smoke on you or busting heavy, I’m just trying to keep you straight on what you can say about a target after analysis. despite the cueing, you can only state what the data delivered.

:)

Aloha Glenn

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Jason To: Glenn 1999-06-02

Wow! I just got home from work and saw all of the posts. One thing that kept cropping up in my session was a major press conference associated with the incident.

Dick, do you know if there have been any prees conferences on this yet? I haven’t been able to see the news all day.

Jason

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: daniel To: Glenn 1999-06-02

Jason: I do believe the President made a public statement, but whether the statement amounted to a press conference I do not know. I do not own a TV so I don’t "see" the news ;-)

Dick/Everyone: The mere fact that YOU saw this event and targeted it says a great deal, especially considering the fact that this is the first U.S. airline accident in a year and a half (if my recollection is correct).

I agree (says the newbie–wink wink) that there’s too much synchronicity to discount this event–at least not for another 90 days.

And uh…by the way Dick…uh…gosh…gee…I did record rainfall in my (otherwise weak) session..can I um…have a cookie when I make it to Hawaii?

Dan

PS: Make that kimchi–with hashi :)

Dick,

There are several things I would like to say about what you put together in this prediction experiment.

1st… A DC-9/MD-80 going down within 12 hours of your posting your work on the website is a bit too much synchronicity for me to discount.

2nd… Go over all your work from tasking to publishing and identify every thing that was done wrong. Don’t be shy just do it.

3rd… Go over all your work from tasking to publishing and identify everything that was done right. Pay close attention to S-2 Phonics, S-7 Phonics, and the S-3’s. Look at your S-3’s without using any of the labels provided by the viewers.

4th… Honestly examine the data and tell me if your Working Notes audit back to specific data.

The future is a bear to RV. The big jets don’t crash everyday. Your posting on the same day but before the crash makes me think something is amiss in how this target was worked into its finished product.

Regardless, I will say that you came pretty close there to doing something that would have made some huge ripples throughout the RV community.

I guess I will have to keep an eye on you now :)

ALoha Glenn

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Dick To: Glenn 1999-06-02

Hi Glenn..

Banshee named Kauai.
Valtra drew Diamond Head
Jim sketched (high rises with the circular restaurant) and named Honolulu.
And Zoltan named Hawaii in Annex B.

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Valtra To: Dick 1999-06-02

Then why wasn’t all this in the working notes? Peace Jigmate, Mana

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Dick To: daniel 1999-06-02

Any air disaster is accompanied by a news conference, guaranteed. After 24 years in TV news, thats ONE THING I know. :-)

And uh…by the way Dick…uh…gosh…gee…I did record rainfall in my (otherwise weak) session..can I um…have a cookie when I make it to Hawaii?

Yes..Dan there is a lot of weather data. I’m gonna get my ass kicked on this one.

Dan you had rainfall.

So did Sita. Sita’s data included: "Raining"- "mother nature attacks" "muddy" "bad weather" "water in air" "heavy moisture" "concrete breaks" "cries and screams"
"much debris" "rain-fire- explosion"

Jim’s sked was full of long straight "roadways" with an explosion. He also said: "catastrophe evacuate"

Banshee had "wind" and in S3 it was full of stuff like "night" "hard on wet" "metal screech" "wind"

And a classic moment in S-2 Phase column from Pame:

"landed like a roller coaster ride"

Folks, I need work as an analyst. Lot of great data from the viewers. It is damn hard doing analysis on 10 sessions! And I did it very quickly. For some reason I felt a sense of urgency to get it up . . .

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Valtra To: Dick 1999-06-02

Well, you can go ahead and do the analysis over now…it is public that we called a future target of a plane crash…now let’s get the analysis to protocol…no big thing…if you want me to do the analysis while you are on vacation I will be happy to do it, Dick…Aloha, Mana

Re: Plane Crash!

Reply From: Banshee To: Dick 1999-06-02

Dick

You did a damned good job. You are a student, you just learned this! Don’t be too hard on yourself. There’s no mistakes only lessons.
Banshee

Any air disaster is accompanied by a news conference, guaranteed. After 24 years in TV news, thats ONE THING I know. :-)

Yes..Dan there is a lot of weather data. I’m gonna get my ass kicked on this one.

Dan you had rainfall. So did Sita. Sita’s data included: "Raining"- "mother nature attacks" "muddy" "bad weather" "water in air" "heavy moisture" "concrete breaks" "cries and screams" "much debris" "rain-fire- explosion"

Jim’s sked was full of long straight "roadways" with an explosion. He also said: "catastrophe evacuate"

Banshee had "wind" and in S3 it was full of stuff like "night" "hard on wet" "metal screech" "wind"

And a classic moment in S-2 Phase column from Pame: "landed like a roller coaster ride"

Folks, I need work as an analyst. Lot of great data from the viewers. It is damn hard doing analysis on 10 sessions! And I did it very quickly. For some reason I felt a sense of urgency to get it up . . .

a question

Reply From: Ant Hill To: Glenn 1999-06-03

Hey I have a question. I know that the future is difficult to ascertain, regardless of how skilled the viewer(s). I’ve done a bunch of in house projects to see what types of patterns immerge. However, I am suspect of trying to tie the data to the current airliner crash:

1st… A DC-9/MD-80 going down within 12 hours of your posting your work on the website is a bit too much synchronicity for me to discount.

The target cue was written:

Passenger Airliner Emergency / Hawaii / Near Future

So since the que was written with "Hawaii" in it, why would the viewer(s) get the crash in Arkansas, nearly half a world away? One could argue that high-entropy sliding occured, I suppose, but I haven’t seen a temporal/spatial sliding with such a specific, leading tasking.

And doesn’t this cue imply that something would happen in the near future? What if there aren’t any Hawaii-based passenger airliner emergencies in the near future? What would the viewer get? Isn’t it like viewing Santa Claus – wouldn’t you get aspects of the common mythology or the tasker expectation?

Just wondering, since everyone is considering this a near hit…

P.

PS I mean no dissent with my questions, just being careful in my thought, as is my way.

Re: a question

Reply From: Banshee To: Ant Hill 1999-06-03

Aloha Pru!

I JUST got off YOUR BB. I tend to agree with you. The cue was written as you say, Passenger Airline Emergency/Hawaii/Near Future. I think what we viewed has yet to happen.
Peace
Banshee/Rosie

Re: a question

Reply From: Dick To: Ant Hill 1999-06-03

Hi Pru…

This whole thing was screwy as hell. It came about after I saw something while I was drifting around in Theta Isolation, practicing with biofeedback equipment. I was "flipping thru the pages" so to speak, zoning out watching the images. Sort of what you would call "image streaming."

While in this state I saw the plane (clearly an MD-80) in distress. It was so clear and so real I sat bolt upright gasping.

The profile of that plane is so distinct (here in Hawaii Hawaiian airlines flies them interisland) that I just associated that plane with Hawaiian.

I’ve had this experience a couple of other times, seeing things that later happened. I sketched what I had seen and mailed it to myself.

Then I cued it – again with the assumption (to assume is to sin) that is was an event in Hawaii.

I passed it out to ten viewers and they worked it.

I did the analysis. We all know that is a mistake. I think Glenn knew this but it is his policy to let us sink or swim on our own. We learn more that way.

I made some mistakes in the analysis. All the sessions are full of plane crash data and there is also a lot of bad weather data. Pru.. you will be proud of your own student JP who wrote on one page of his session: "Wind blowing stormy" "burning fuel."

As for the geographic locator ( NOW WE ARE GETTING INTO AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION OF RV THEORY ) If you tell your sub, go find the NEXT PLANE CRASH…. in Hawaii..

It might be that your sub goes and finds – WOW! lookee here’s a PLANE CRASH! And the geographic locator is lost. Maybe there isn’t going to be plane crash in Hawaii in the near future, so the viewers’ sub found the next best thing.

I don’t know. This all illustrates how damn tricky it is to try to use RV for predictive purposes.

By the way, we’re getting our first class in locating things on a future timeline this week. We have only the barest first step fundamentals of finding things geographically. So we have a lot to learn.

Re: a question

Reply From: Jason To: Ant Hill 1999-06-04

Hi Pru,

I think the target cue was based more on what Dick saw while on the biofeedback than what he associated it with words after seeing it. I’m not saying that he saw the Arkansas crash…whos to say what he saw.

It was Dick’s assumption that placed it in the Hawaiian Islands. I think that because Dick saw the plane crash before he cued it, his intent MAY have been more inclined for the other viewers to see what he also saw. Correct me if i’m wrong here Dick.

Jason

Re: a question

Reply From: Banshee To: Jason 1999-06-03

Can you remote view an assumption?

Hi Pru,

I think the target cue was based more on what Dick saw while on the biofeedback than what he associated it with words after seeing it. I’m not saying that he saw the Arkansas crash…whos to say what he saw.

It was Dick’s assumption that placed it in the Hawaiian Islands. I think that because Dick saw the plane crash before he cued it, his intent MAY have been more inclined for the other viewers to see what he also saw. Correct me if i’m wrong here Dick.

Jason

Re: a question

Reply From: Dick To: Banshee 1999-06-03

Glenn says no.

When I was doing the analysis he took a quick look at all the data… viewer after viewer submitting explosions, screams, burning fuel, etc.

I asked, Could they be remote viewing my assumption and expectation? Glenn says no. If you had 6 very strong remote influencers powering the image at a particular viewer, they may pick it up. But little old me? I don’t think so.

Maybe Glenn will comment on this…

Re: a question

Reply From: Glenn To: Ant Hill 1999-06-03

Aloha Pru, and Dick

MY comment;

1st… A DC-9/MD-80 going down within 12 hours of your posting your work on the Website is a bit too much synchronicity for me to discount.

In training viewers there comes the day that they stand up and put the big target around their neck. Dicks prediction target was his show from the beginning.

When Dick first got the visual of the plane he was in theta freebasing the matrix on biofeedback. For whatever reason the visual came into the awareness of his primary consciousness.

He then took the visual and reverse-worked it as a target. At some point in time he decided that the event was near future and located in those area’s geographic to Hawaii. He then cued it and put it out to be worked by other viewers.

I will repeat my comment that; The Plane going down within 12 hours of the posted data is enough to make me wonder about what exactly occurred here. Its’ been over a year or so since our last jet mishap so I am very interested in everything leading to the publication of this target.

It is a good time to say stop, check your data, do a protocol check and see if the ducks are all in a row.

From my vantagepoint the ducks are in a gaggle and some of the analysis needs to be re-looked.

It is my suspicion that Dick was on to something here but got himself off-track by localizing the event in our little world out here.

Dick does not need to convince me of his ability to view. He has proven time and again that he has good eyes. What he is doing now is taking on RVs’ most difficult task "Remote Viewing the Future".

I’m sure he knows by now that assumptions anywhere along the line can sink you. I am sure many of these assumptions were driven by his sense of urgency related to this target. For whatever reason, he was pretty driven with getting this posted. He felt that it was very urgent.

Now it is my personal opinion that Dick on a subconscious level knew a jet (a DC-9) was going to get in trouble. I think he successfully passed this much on to his primary awareness. I think from there he acquired an idea that it was a local plane and then took it all to the races. I base my opinion on the timing of the post, and the real event, and the fact that the scenario was dressed up in a big Hawaiian MUMU.

What I want to say to Dick is that your intuition was headed in the right direction but you must remain most critical each and every step of the way. Do it all by the numbers. The tasking should have been …..

Jet Aircraft in danger/Seen by Dick Allgire/near future

Dick should have targeteered this target.

Dick should not have worked this target.

Dick should not have done the analysis.

Next time Dick.. Form your team, delegate responsibilities and work it like every other project. Don’t try to do it all. I do not think you did a bad job, but I think your next one will be better. Each target will bring you closer and closer to developing the management aspect of RV.

Dick you came real close to rocking the world. I look forward to your next time in the ring.

Aloha Glenn

Ps . Dick you still have 88 days to come back and say AHA! I told you so.

:)

Re: a question

Reply From: Dick To: Glenn 1999-06-03

Ps . Dick you still have 88 days to come back and say AHA! I told you so.

I sincerely hope what happened in Little Rock was the end of it. I do not want anything unfortunate to happen to any Hawaiian airlines jet. I will breathe a sigh of relief and gratitude when the timeline expires and nothing has happened here in the islands.

Dick

Re: a question

Reply From: Ant Hill To: Glenn 1999-06-04

Thanks Dick and Glenn for clearing that up. It wasn’t apparent to me when I first read the report that the tasking was based on a precognitive espisode.

Ant Hill

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