Question
Is anyone aware of any studies or data or personal experience that shows that any form of remote viewing can distinguish between fact and fancy?
This question comes from the recent posts about Rving Jesus Christ.
I personally believe in the Christian view of Jesus. How would this affect my being a tasker or viewer of the subject?
Suppose that Jesus, or any person or object is just a fantasy or embellishment of a fact or a composite of many persons/things. Has anyone developed a means to identify this or are we back to verifiable targets as the only reliable data?
Re: Question
I asked Glenn in class the other night if he had ever in his life tried to work a target of this nature (by this nature I was referring to things like Jesus Christ / Current Time, Reptillian Bases, The Tower of Babel, Whitley Strieber’s Most Significant Abduction Event, etc.)
He said no, never.
Military Intelligence did not use this tool to dink around.
The real remote viewers don’t put their stuff up on the internet, and they don’t write books. (Well, maybe Joe McMoneagle.) What you mostly see on the internet is a lot of people toying with a watered down version of remote viewing, the stuff they put out for public consumption. A lot of people have gone off the deep end with it.
I believe at HRVG we are learning the real thing, but we have a long way to go. It takes a long time, and its very difficult to master.
Rich, maybe we can answer your question in a few years.
Remember what Glenn always says; "If it sounds too farfetched to be true, don’t belive it."
aloha
Re: Question
The ability to remote view is limited only by the quality of your own being.
If you are a remote viewer and Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ.
And you decide to remote view Jesus Christ, two things are very evident.
1. Your are very ambitious.
2. You are in for one heck of a session.
Fact or Fantasy? How can you tell? There are no studies that I am aware of in this area, usually a determination that a specific viewer is prone to the imagination monster over critical data.
Remote Viewing the Son of God, if it were so, if it was the truth, and Jesus is just that and more…The session would be something like this….
The Viewer would make target Contact….
The Viewer would become aware of the essences of the Christ.
The Viewer would realize the right or wrong of what they were doing in an instant..
If the viewer felt that the contact was right some altered state (presumably Grace) would envelop them.
If they could function beyond the Grace and manage to have the wits to ask anything in their mind…the clarity would change their lives forever.
Any Remote Viewer so bold and confident to reach out to the Son of God with a pure heart will be answered. No Christ of man would ignore it.
It is far more important "what you are" as opposed to "who you are" when it comes to Remote Viewing. If you have the eyes to see you will. If you do not you wont, or it will be a distortion of reality.
I feel I am a confident , competent, Remote Viewer. There have been a million chances to RV the Christ. I do not because I am not ready for such a target. There are far too many shames and deeds in my life that I have never faced, too many people I have hurt, men I did not know that I have hunted intending to hurt, too much to stand before the Son of God who would see all. I think the Christ target is one I will save for a day when I am more than I am as a man. When I have grown a bit more or pass away and face the judgement.
When someone says they have Reomte Viewed such a target I listen very closely. I wait to hear the one that says, I realize what I need to do, what I need to be, I have so much to think about, excuse me.
Aloha Glenn
Re: Question – Two Cents
All right..this is an esoteric area attempting to be defined by the finite descriptors and finite evaluators…regardless of how or what methodology is used to remote view a controversial entity such as the Christ Jesus, the analysis or any correlative data cannot be assessed with human, physical qualifications. That which is of the higher mind can only be understood in relation to higher mind..that which is of lower mind can only be assessed within the same parameters…no one can say what is a definite or imaginative truth in this aspect because we are all limited to the interpretations by our own subjective reasoning.
I sincerely do not believe a mortal can remote view a Christ being if you have any understanding of the law of vibrations…a being of such nature has accelerated energy so purified that it would literally hurt us to be in its presence (examples? Read what happened to Moses when he was having a pow wow with YHWH..his physical being was totally transformed)…I believe it is the same with such a dense being as Satan…we can only obtain data according to the vibratory rate that we can match or which can match us…anything beyond that whether higher or lower in vibration would be highly distorted and may cause a physio-psychological change so dramatic that we would literally be transformed.
Remote viewing has tremendous possibilities, but I sincerely feel it is not with limits and any attempt at remote viewing any entity of tremendous radiating energy would cause a tremendous metamorphosis within us…
Thank you for letting me contribute…
Aloha pumehana..
Sita
Re: Question – Two Cents-corr
Remote viewing has tremendous possibilities, but I sincerely feel it is not WITHOUT limits and any attempt at remote viewing any entity of tremendous radiating energy would cause a tremendous metamorphosis within us…
Thank you for letting me contribute…
Aloha pumehana.. Sita
Re: Question – Two Cents-corr
Seems to me,
To remote view an Enlightened Being is to observe, to view, this Being. The other sensorals are limited by our experience and imagination. Some sense of "elevation" may be experienced, depending on the qualtiy of our being.
This may very well be a Free Answer (see rate schedule above :)
Banshee
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Re: Question
Rich, maybe we can answer your question in a few years.
Remember what Glenn always says; "If it sounds too farfetched to be true, don’t belive it."
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I certainly agree with that last part, whether it’s Ingo Swann’s sexy alien in the grocery store, the unfortunates under SantaFe Baldy or ETs in the bathroom :) :)
The part about "a few years" puzzles me and I believe I asked this before. Allowing that you are studying RV on a part time basis as a civilian with other major responsibilities a few years may be reasonable.
But what does the military do? How long does training take? Is it an intensive course of x months treated as any other training? What are all these people doing after leaving the militaty? There must be hundreds if not thousands? And the number must be increasing constantly. If this is so then it has to be frightening to produce such a secretive group with such powers. Thsi would put all of that MJ12 stuff into kiddieland.
This situation goes back to the early Farsight days when the methodology was so secretive, the claims so great and the demonstrations so lacking that the situation was becoming more cultlike than anything else. "Look, there goes one of them now" seemed to be the destiny of advanced viewers with the power of "deep mind probes" and other esoteric stuff.
And we go full circle to…"If it sounds too farfetched….". Do you understand what I am trying to find out?
Re: Question ,Answer
JEDI
I usualy do not use direct quotes from my scriptuers,as it seems to cause dissention, arguements, and the like. This time is not usual.
Glenn The ability to remote view is limited only by the quality of your own being.
JEDI
The testamony of St.John, chapter14, talks first of Jesus and God, and the apostles knowing of God and Jesus. Then Jesus Makes A Very bold statement that I accept as literal. "Verily,verialy I say unto you ,He that believth on me, The works that I do shall he do also: And greater works than these shall he do also:because I go unto my father."
This passage says several things ,but the point that I would like to focus on is that Jesus ,by this time, had done everything but bring himself back from the dead, and he is telling his apostles that all that he has done ,they have the abilaty to do,and more. I see this as saying that I can do these things also.
As I have proven I have at least one of these abilaties. Though no one is questioning my abilaty, I had to make that point in that way to say this.
St.Luke 9:54 (ths sons of Boanerges Mark 3:17)have a skill that Jesus never demonstrated, that of bringing fire down from the skies.
The Quality of my own being will be best demonstrated after I prove this next theorie true.
Glenn If you are a remote viewer and Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ.
And you decide to remote view Jesus Christ, two things are very evident.
1. Your are very ambitious.
JEDI
I believe myself to be,"the nobel Brutus hath told you that Cesar was Ambitious"
Glenn 2. You are in for one heck of a session.
JEDI
This brings me to my point. Yanna gave me a target once, Master Makio Usui,at the moment that he recieved his heart’s desire,near past.I located him , picked him up, felt what he felt,and saw and percieved what he did, to include 2 Angellic beings(maby ,according to my understanding, God and Jesus) .When I was done I had this "power" in me that defies discription . Now, I believe this power was the abilaty to heal, and I mean heal anything, and any one. That may sound arrogant or extrem, but it is no different than RV .I want to achieve that feeling again and attemt to put it to good use,Preferably a blind person . Also , I want to go sked by sked event by event and do all of the miracle’s that Jesus did.
See, I have a working hypothesis that this skill,RV, is a gate way to picking up these skills and abilaties and once you tap them enough to know how to tag them you can go there any time you intend to.
Glenn Fact or Fantasy? How can you tell?
JEDI
The attempt to use these powers and the success therein will be proof enough.
Glenn
There
e> are no studies that I am aware of in this area, usually a determination that a specific viewer is prone to the imagination monster over critical data.
Remote Viewing the Son of God, if it were so, if it was the truth, and Jesus is just that and more…The session would be something like this….
The Viewer would make target Contact….
The Viewer would become aware of the essences of the Christ.
The Viewer would realize the right or wrong of what they were doing in an instant..
If the viewer felt that the contact was right some altered state (presumably Grace) would envelop them.
JEDI
It certanly was something.
GLENN If they could function beyond the Grace and manage to have the wits to ask anything in their mind…the clarity would change their lives forever.
Any Remote Viewer so bold and confident to reach out to the Son of God with a pure heart will be answered. No Christ of man would ignore it.
It is far more important "what you are" as opposed to "who you are" when it comes to Remote Viewing. If you have the eyes to see you will. If you do not you wont, or it will be a distortion of reality.
I feel I am a confident , competent, Remote Viewer. There have been a million chances to RV the Christ. I do not because I am not ready for such a target. There are far too many shames and deeds in my life that I have never faced, too many people I have hurt, men I did not know that I have hunted intending to hurt, too much to stand before the Son of God who would see all. I think the Christ target is one I will save for a day when I am more than I am as a man. When I have grown a bit more or pass away and face the judgement.
JEDI
Become saved, for God so loved Glenn that he gave his only begotten Son So that no matter what happened that some day he may return home in glory, lessons learned and all grown up, A prodigal son that has returned home, the father jumps up from his chair, runs to greet him, and weeps for joy that his son has come home.
See, God doesn’t care about how dirty you’ve gotten . He knew from the begenning that when he sent you here to learn and grow, that you would come back home covered with mud and dirt.
All it takes is a little faith, that one step that one thought , know that Your father loves you as you love your daughter ,and more .And he wants you home in due time.
Jesus took all your punishment for you, and you are clean before the father ,blameless and all grown up .
That’s his plan, go outside , play, learn, grow,and skinn your knees , then when it’s time to come home to eat dinner.You have to wash up before you sit at the table with your father, and so your brother, Jesus, will wash you up and present you to your father , PURE ,CLEAN ,GROWN ,BEAUTIFULL, AND A SIGHT FOR SORE EYES.
Ever have an arguement with your daughter ,and it was so bad you’d do anything to make it better ? That is what your father has done for you. Dont worry, all is payed for , your job is to grow up , learn not to judge, learn to forgive, learn how to be more tomorrow than that which you are today. Then, next time you see your big brother tell him that you are home and that you wish to get cleaned up to see you all’s father. When someone says they have Reomte Viewed such a target I listen very closely. I wait to hear the one that says, I realize what I need to do, what I need to be, I have so much to think about, excuse me.
Aloha Glenn
This is JEDI training camp
JEDI>
Re: Question – My Newbie Two Cents
Aloha everyone,
I’m just happy to RV validation targets. There’s so much about the past that I want to know, we could spend the next millennium shooting validation targets. And as skilled as Glenn is, when he tells me the future and esoteric targets are too fraught with uncertainties then I’m happy to wait until I (hopefully) get up to his skill level before even considering shooting such targets, if at all.
I believe one of the main reasons we humans are so obsessed with the future is because of the way we interpret time itself. We see the past "behind" us and the future "in front of us".
There is a famous mountain gorilla named "Koko". She can sign over 1,000 words, making simple sentences as well with her trainer Francine Patterson. When Francine was first teaching Koko hand signs for time concepts, she discovered that gorillas interpret the future as being "behind" them because they can’t see it, it hasn’t happened yet. The past is "in front of them" because they can see (remember) it, it’s already happened. That’s why gorillas are not concerned so much with what they can’t "see" yet. The past and present are much more important to them, and maybe to all animals of like intelligence such as dogs, pigs, whales, dolphins (conjecture on my part). They are really "living in the now".
Just my newbie two cents worth.
grasshopper
Re: Question ,Answer. BRAVO JEDI
You know what you’re talking about, my friend. You’re an inspiration to us all.
"The truth shall set you free".
Bless you Jedi. Rich B.
JEDI I usualy do not use direct quotes from my scriptuers,as it seems to cause dissention, arguements, and the like. This time is not usual.
Glenn
JEDI The testamony of St.John, chapter14, talks first of Jesus and God, and the apostles knowing of God and Jesus. Then Jesus Makes A Very bold statement that I accept as literal. "Verily,verialy I say unto you ,He that believth on me, The works that I do shall he do also: And greater works than these shall he do also:because I go unto my father." This passage says several things ,but the point that I would like to focus on is that Jesus ,by this time, had done everything but bring himself back from the dead, and he is telling his apostles that all that he has done ,they have the abilaty to do,and more. I see this as saying that I can do these things also. As I have proven I have at least one of these abilaties. Though no one is questioning my abilaty, I had to make that point in that way to say this. St.Luke 9:54 (ths sons of Boanerges Mark 3:17)have a skill that Jesus never demonstrated, that of bringing fire down from the skies. The Quality of my own being will be best demonstrated after I prove this next theorie true. Glenn JEDI I believe myself to be,"the nobel Brutus hath told you that Cesar was Ambitious" Glenn JEDI This brings me to my point. Yanna gave me a target once, Master Makio Usui,at the moment that he recieved his heart’s desire,near past.I located him , picked him up, felt what he felt,and saw and percieved what he did, to include 2 Angellic beings(maby ,according to my understanding, God and Jesus) .When I was done I had this "power" in me that defies discription . Now, I believe this power was the abilaty to heal, and I mean heal anything, and any one. That may sound arrogant or extrem, but it is no different than RV .I want to achieve that feeling again and attemt to put it to good use,Preferably a blind person . Also , I want to go sked by sked event by event and do all of the miracle’s that Jesus did. See, I have a working hypothesis that this skill,RV, is a gate way to picking up these skills and abilaties and once you tap them enough to know how to tag them you can go there any time you intend to. Glenn JEDI The attempt to use these powers and the success therein will be proof enough. Glenn There e> are no studies that I am aware of in this JEDI It certanly was something. GLENN JEDI Become saved, for God so loved Glenn that he gave his only begotten Son So that no matter what happened that some day he may return home in glory, lessons learned and all grown up, A prodigal son that has returned home, the father jumps up from his chair, runs to greet him, and weeps for joy that his son has come home. See, God doesn’t care about how dirty you’ve gotten . He knew from the begenning that when he sent you here to learn and grow, that you would come back home covered with mud and dirt. All it takes is a little faith, that one step that one thought , know that Your father loves you as you love your daughter ,and more .And he wants you home in due time. Jesus took all your punishment for you, and you are clean before the father ,blameless and all grown up .
That’s his plan, go outside , play, learn, grow,and skinn your knees , then when it’s time to come home to eat dinner.You have to wash up before you sit at the table with your father, and so your brother, Jesus, will wash you up and present you to your father , PURE ,CLEAN ,GROWN ,BEAUTIFULL, AND A SIGHT FOR SORE EYES.
Ever have an arguement with your daughter ,and it was so bad you’d do anything to make it better ? That is what your father has done for you. Dont worry, all is payed for , your job is to grow up , learn not to judge, learn to forgive, learn how to be more tomorrow than that which you are today. Then, next time you see your big brother tell him that you are home and that you wish to get cleaned up to see you all’s father.
This is JEDI training camp JEDI>
Re: Question,I get it all
I get it all
If one thing can be gotten from RVing then all things can be gotten.
chain of custody
Stubby pencil
Before and after targets
remember your basics, that’s what’ll hold you in line.
JEDI
Is anyone aware of any studies or data or personal experience that shows that any form of remote viewing can distinguish between fact and fancy?
This question comes from the recent posts about Rving Jesus Christ.
I personally believe in the Christian view of Jesus. How would this affect my being a tasker or viewer of the subject?
Suppose that Jesus, or any person or object is just a fantasy or embellishment of a fact or a composite of many persons/things. Has anyone developed a means to identify this or are we back to verifiable targets as the only reliable data?
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May God bless you Glenn. Archiving your message.
Glenn,
Your words were truly touching. You are further along than you think. You are aware. Most people do not bother to think.
Your last sentence says it all.
God bless you.
Regards,
John
the guy from Taegu
The ability to remote view is limited only by the quality of your own being.
If you are a remote viewer and Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ.
And you decide to remote view Jesus Christ, two things are very evident.
1. Your are very ambitious.
2. You are in for one heck of a session.
Fact or Fantasy? How can you tell? There are no studies that I am aware of in this area, usually a determination that a specific viewer is prone to the imagination monster over critical data.
Remote Viewing the Son of God, if it were so, if it was the truth, and Jesus is just that and more…The session would be something like this….
The Viewer would make target Contact….
The Viewer would become aware of the essences of the Christ.
The Viewer would realize the right or wrong of what they were doing in an instant..
If the viewer felt that the contact was right some altered state (presumably Grace) would envelop them.
If they could function beyond the Grace and manage to have the wits to ask anything in their mind…the clarity would change their lives forever.
Any Remote Viewer so bold and confident to reach out to the Son of God with a pure heart will be answered. No Christ of man would ignore it.
It is far more important "what you are" as opposed to "who you are" when it comes to Remote Viewing. If you have the eyes to see you will. If you do not you wont, or it will be a distortion of reality.
I feel I am a confident , competent, Remote Viewer. There have been a million chances to RV the Christ. I do not because I am not ready for such a target. There are far too many shames and deeds in my life that I have never faced, too many people I have hurt, men I did not know that I have hunted intending to hurt, too much to stand before the Son of God who would see all. I think the Christ target is one I will save for a day when I am more than I am as a man. When I have grown a bit more or pass away and face the judgement.
When someone says they have Reomte Viewed such a target I listen very closely. I wait to hear the one that says, I realize what I need to do, what I need to be, I have so much to think about, excuse me.
Aloha Glenn
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Re: May God bless you Glenn. Archiving your message.
Aloha John,
I just now had a chance to read Glenn’s "Question" response. I too was very touched by his insightfulness. I’m very proud to be his student.
Peace
Banshee
Glenn,
Your words were truly touching. You are further along than you think. You are aware. Most people do not bother to think.
Your last sentence says it all.
God bless you.
Re: Question
I realize what I need to do, what I need to be. I have so much to think about, excuse me.
Sha’are ‘O-Rah Elohenu! T’Sa-lem Ain Soph! Mana