RV and Time

Aloha Dick, In holding with field theory and wave mechanics the developing field of the present has a deep background field (the past) and a shallow foreground field (the future). It is the emanations of the shape of things to come. More of a field mold/form than a robust field like the present or past. The closer to the present the better for any prediction experiment. Within 90 days is my recommended time frame. I will repeat that it is indeed risky to predict the future. I wince when I consider it, I know it’s possible but you just have to get good clarity. On prediction experiment 1, I was one of three Viewers, when we worked the timeline believe me we were uneasy as hell. We knew it was a Friday, everyone agreed. When we went after the date we gave it our best shot. The grey area between March and April on probing the months was a bear. I have been considering making a new linear calendar to help solve that problem when the end of march feels the same as the begining of April.

Aloha Glenn

Glenn,

Have you ever thought of using a pendulum to get specific data like the day and month of your prediction? I would imagine you could use this method after your session. I’m only asking because Ingo Swann used pendulums with his remote viewing. And I think he used them for dates.

J.P.

What does all this say about time? Has everything already happened?

Very early on in my fiddling with RV, I started hitting these same questions. (Mostly because I spent so much time on lotto work, which by definition is future-RV) Not sure I have an answer, but what I think I have settled on for now is that Time is essentially meaningless in an RV context. It is difficult enough to imagine (as you’ve said) "space" being irrelevant to RV perception… but once we work out a hypothesis for our own mind to chew on, we tend to get over that. For me, the time issue is much harder. I distinctly notice a difference in performance when I’m running future targets (which I do a lot of- the lotto). I really am beginning to get the feeling that this "difference in performance" has more to do with me _expecting_ to have trouble with future targets than anything else, since I have so many other examples of the laws of causality & time being turned on their ear by RV.

I’ve often successfully worked targets where the target ID didn’t actually get associated with a target until long after the session work. Surely, this is future-perception. There was nothing in the "present" to point to the target at all.

This is getting rambling, but one more thing. :-) In _Mind Trek_, Joe McMoneagle floats the hypothesis that RV (in general) might work because he (Joe, or some future form of Joe) sometime in the future, WILL know the answer to what is being queried, and that his own mind can internally pass that info back in time to when he’s doing the RV session. Even he admits this is an oversimplification, but it’s sometimes helped me to look at it this way. Future-RV may be explained by something completely else, but whatever accounts for it, I’m starting to believe that thinking that it’s any "harder" than real-time RV has the effect of making it just that.

-John

Aloha Everybody…

Perhaps this is a good TIME for me to add a few thoughts on RV & Time.

I have a different perspective on TIME & RV than others who have spoken about it. I believe that you can’t explain RV without questioning the NATURE of time.

My defintion of TIME:

Time is a communication modality.
It is a vehicle of consciousness.
It is a "medium" through which information travels, events occur, RV occurs, etc.

Metaphorically speaking, it is the "ocean" (world of beingness) to the dolphins (RV’ers).

There is more to time than meets the eye. First of all, let me say, I am not referring to linear time which is the human mental construct — that is clock time — which only moves in one direction. I am talking about the nature of time itself. I believe that this exists above and beyond our ideas about it. Non-linear space/time moves in all directions, backwards, forwards, parrallel, and multi-dimensionally.

There are those who are unraveling how to "bend" time. In fact, I believe, it is because of some of these "experiments" in time, that there have actually been alterations, or rips (metaphorically speaking) in the fabric of time. It is for this reason, that many predictions (since 1971) are less accurate than predictions made before this time. I think you will see in general a "curve of inaccuracy" occuring amongst the current predictions that many people are presenting these days.

There are many studies with animals that show that animals have an impeccible sense of time. This illustrates that time is not simply a human construction. I know my cat "Wolfie" knows exactly when 7:30 in the morning is! I get that un-ignorable furry wake-up call!

Koko, the gorilla, has been taught American Sign Language, and has the vocabulary of a three-year-old child. She has given us many insights into an animal’s view of time. Without the benefit of any clocks, she knows exactly "what" time it is. If one of her trainers doesn’t leave at the appointed time, she will sign "You go home now!"

One of my favorite "Koko & Time stories" is the time that Penny, (her trainer), had to go away on business for two weeks. Penny didn’t think that Koko could understand the concept of two weeks — so Penny signed to her that she would be gone for seven days. When Penny returned from the two week trip, Koko had pulled her sink out from the wall. "Did you do that?" Penny signed. "No!" Koko replied. "You lied to me," Penny said. "You lied to me first," Koko replied.

There are many more studies that show that wild animals know time, which proves that it is not simply a human construction.

We know that RV is not limited by linear time and space, of course, but to understand how RV works, I think we have to rexamine our model of time. I don’t agree with the model that Glenn has presented in class, but that is another discussion for another time (no pun intended.)

Jim — you mentioned in your post "The Nature of RV??" that you believe that it is well within the grasp of a single human being to "bend time." I agree. One method has to do with a particular formula for counter-rotating fields. This is how the Anasazi’s made a dimensional shift, and it is also how some friends from other worlds bop around the universe — but I guess I shouldn’t go there…

Jim — did you get the e-mail that I sent to you that discusses these ideas in more depth (and more intensity I might add :)?

Dale Graff ("Tracks in the Psychic Wilderness") said that he doesn’t believe that the theory of electro- magnetic fields explains RV. Although clearly since RV is done by humans, it follows some of these laws. But EM theory doesn’t EXPLAIN why RV works. To do that I believe you need to look at morphogenic fields, the "C" word (consiousness and it’s sister — intention) as well as the nature of time. Then you are starting to have a clue…

Well…time to say Aloha for now…I hope to be back in Hawaii next week. Best wishes to everyone…

Miss A…

for A lot of time on my hAnds

Aloha Dick, In holding with field theory and wave mechanics the developing field of the present has a deep background field (the past) and a shallow foreground field (the future). It is the emanations of the shape of things to come. More of a field mold/form than a robust field like the present or past. The closer to the present the better for any prediction experiment. Within 90 days is my recommended time frame. I will repeat that it is indeed risky to predict the future. I wince when I consider it, I know it’s possible but you just have to get good clarity. On prediction experiment 1, I was one of three Viewers, when we worked the timeline believe me we were uneasy as hell. We knew it was a Friday, everyone agreed. When we went after the date we gave it our best shot. The grey area between March and April on probing the months was a bear. I have been considering making a new linear calendar to help solve that problem when the end of march feels the same as the begining of April.

Aloha Glenn

Angelina,

So, you’re a Koko fan too? Hmmmmm, I always wanted to have a conversation in sign language with Koko. I wonder if you could teach a gorilla to remote view?

So many questions, so few answers……

J.P.

snip…. I distinctly notice a difference in performance when I’m running future targets (which I do a lot of- the lotto). I really am beginning to get the feeling that this "difference in performance" has more to do with me _expecting_ to have trouble with future targets than anything else, since I have so many other examples of the laws of causality & time being turned on their ear by RV…snip

…snip Future-RV may be explained by something completely else, but whatever accounts for it, I’m starting to believe that thinking that it’s any "harder" than real-time RV has the effect of making it just that.

-John

Harder is a judgment and an attachment of signifigance.

Future targets do "feel" different from present and past because, for lack of a better way to explain it, there is a lag time while the matrix calculates the most likely probility given current patterns and trends, then presents the data to you.

It may be labled harder, or the feeling labled struggle, because you have to wait seconds longer while the data forms, this is a hallmark of a future target. Try letting go of the significance and just waiting on the data :)

Aloha Yaana

It may be labled harder, or the feeling labled struggle, because you have to wait seconds longer while the data forms, this is a hallmark of a future target. Try letting go of the significance and just waiting on the data :)

That’s interesting. I’ve never heard anyone say that, but it makes good sense. Is it generally believed that the matrix is only calculating a probability? Sometimes, in my lotto work, I have -to a "t"- described an image corresponding to a certain result, only to find out later that another image, totally unrelated to my session work, was the right one. Perhaps at the point I did the work, it was more "probable" that the other result would be the final one?

I’m having to struggle with balancing doing these sessions at 1330 LST or so, versus doing them as close as possible to the lotto drawing date/time, versus not doing too many sessions in one sitting.

Phew.

-John

Aloha JP,

Yes, I am a big Koko fan! I have an autographed picture of her in my office! I started learning ASL so I could some day talk to her, but alas… disrtactions prevailed. Did you know that Koko will ‘sign to herself’ if there is no one around to talk to? I don’t think Koko would be too much into the communication protcals we know and love as RV, but certainly animals give us much insight into some of the "component skills" that RV’ers use.

Like how is it that animals know when a storm or earthquake is coming? How do dogs know the exact moment when their master "decides" to return home? (This has been shown by videotaping dogs whose masters come home at no particular schedule. Dogs show ‘excited’ behavior at the precise moment the master "intends" to come home.) And the early (horrible!) Soviet experiments where they separated mother and baby rabbits — (I forget which was on the submarine,) but they would kill the babies and register the mother’s exact moment of recognition/response. This experiment (thousands of feet under salt water) is one of the pieces of evidence that RV is not only an electro/magnetic phenemena (according to Dale Graff). Then there’s all the work done with plants and intention by Cleve Baxter. And there’s the fact that my pussy cat, Mr. Wolfie, knows the EXACT moment I wake up, even if he is in the other room.

So, even if animals don’t RV per se, they certainly show evidence of telepathy, pre-cognition, sonor locating, "telepathic picture transfer" morphogenic field data access (those 100 monkeys!), group consciousness (like birds flying, or dolphins leaping in perfect formation.)

I was once on a big boat in Kona that set out to see dolphins. The captain was explaining to us "if you see dolphins, call out where they are relative to the front of the boat." For example, he said, "dolphins at 10 o’clock!" Just a moment after he said it, a pod of dolphins lept out of the water at the position of precisely 10 o’clock. That was a nice demonstration for all of us!

So maybe the question is not; "Can animals RV?" But "Why can’t we silly humans "know stuff" as clearly as they do?"

Interesting things to muse about…

Miss A

for

"fine gorillA Animal"

(Koko’s answer to the great, enduring spiritual question "who are you?")

Angelina, So, you’re a Koko fan too? Hmmmmm, I always wanted to have a conversation in sign language with Koko. I wonder if you could teach a gorilla to remote view?

So many questions, so few answers……

J.P.

Surely, this is future-perception. There was nothing in the "present" to point to the target at all.

Hi John,

Taking this sentence literally, there is a way to "POINT" to the target. Starting today, if you resolve to memorize, or better yet blackboard the lotto mumbers and the date, and do not miss any days from now on, you will be doing it two years from now and when you visit yourself in the future………..your mind will already have that information in blackboard because your mind knows that you do it every day.

The key would be that you must resolve it to the core of your being. If there is any deceit or self deception in your life it probably won’t work. But if you are always totally honest with yourself and you absolutely resolve to memorize numbers and dates, the results should dramatically improve in a very short period of time.

This is just a theory that occured to me, triggered by reading that one sentence in your post.

Best Regards, Geo. M.

Great post George, that is why committment is so powerful it is a contract with yourself to maintain your chosen standards of action and principals no matter what.

Committment cuts a deep groove in probability, where flying by the seat of your pants does not. This is one of the founding principals upon which RV is built.

Aloha Yaana

Thanks for the encouragement.

I currently have a very strict set of logging set up for this very type of thing. For example, one of the cues for the set I worked over the last couple of days reads " Image/Envelope labeled ‘Target 1’/John’s Filing Cabinet/November 1, 1998 – 12 noon ". The draw takes place on the 31st of October, but once the results are announced, I carefully note them, print off the images corresponding to the results (as preselected randomly by the computer… but that’s a long story), place them in the envelopes, and let them sit their during the time frame indicated in the cuing. I have a promise with myself to do this even when it’s clear I’ve totally missed the targets. It takes a lot of paper, but it is, I think, forging a trust between my concious & subconscious that the data IS available as the cue describes it. All this then gets filed (and soon, once I get to it, databased).

-John

John,

You might want to add to your protocols an audible component, and repeat the numbers out loud several times before you store them away, your auditory

recall could then augment your visual skills, As many of your senses as you can involve, will give you that many more chances to recover the data.

Aloha Yaana

You might want to add to your protocols an audible component,

Good plan. Thanks.

-John