RV the Future?

Glenn

Is there more information about when and who is going to RV the target… if i missed this information could someone show me where it is at??

Mahalo
Pame
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On this Website is the only validated future prediction laid out that has actually come to pass.

Nowhere on any other site have I seen evidenced a future prediction that was made, recorded, occurred, and validated.

We currently have a 2nd future prediction in the works that I have worked as well as others in the Guild. I have passed it along to make sure everything is in order and it is my intention to post it 2 weeks prior to the date of event which is very soon. There are a few issues about this prediction that deal with ethics, especially ethics related to notification. The data seems to indicate a loss of at least one life.

I would like to get the feelings of the guild on this. It seems some responibility clouds the ability to see. Do we play the prediction out? Or do we go after something less intense? Let me know.

Aloha Glenn

I would like to get the feelings of the guild on this. It seems some responibility clouds the ability to see. Do we play the prediction out? Or do we go after something less intense? Let me know.

I’m obviously not a guild member, just a hanger-on-er… but my $0.02 worth is that it should be played out. Jedi made an interesting post regarding our potential responsibility to the one whose life is in danger. Do we even know the person in enough detail to know whom to notify?

Beyond the issue of notification, though… I think the time to decide what should be played out is at the cuing stage. I know I personally would be very disappointed not to get feedback on this one, even though it looks to be unpleasant.

-John

Glen, I for one would like to see your new expierment done as you have outline,especially the posting before the event takes place. Regardless of how you described your procedure the last time I was not able to explain the following points made back to me from others.

1.Notarized statement didn’t have seal stamp,in our area it has to be placed.
2.The return receipt shown was not that it was the one where you ask for it,if it was delivered it would have a signature on the card.
3.Months went by before posting,why?
4.Couldn’t find news of ,many claims in target data,ie: air traffic control major concerns, data was showing launch as well as re-entry,many other things point to covering you know what.

But regardless of all the questions asked me the posting before would have been the most important,any thing else can be made to look differant than it is. I’m not posting this to get anyone riled up again ,it just to express why I think your new prediction guideline seems a good idea.

Gee, you come up with some tough ones Glenn! Could you make them a bit easier please?

Let’s see, we could be dealing with someone right time to die. If it’s predicted and the prediction prevents it – is the prediction correct?

When I counsel someone in therapy who has a dilemma – this is how I would normally approach it. Play out all the possible consequences. ie. Four options here:

1. Publish prediction/person dies anyway
2. Publish prediction/person prevented from dying
3. Not publish/person dies
4. Not publish/person lives.

I would recommend to a client to list ONLY the pros of each of these options and then consider which of the consequences they are happiest with! eg.

1. prediction correct – positive publicity

2. prediction incorrect – person saved
3. what’s been altered
4. saved embarrassment of publishing incorrect prediction.

Back to you!

Aloha Sue

Glenn asked: We currently have a 2nd future prediction in the works . . . it is my intention to post it 2 weeks prior to the date of event. . . There are issues about ethics . . . related to notification. The data seems to indicate a loss of at least one life. . . Do we play the prediction out? >

Dear Glenn,

I hope that you will post the skeds and prediction in a documented format. I also agree with Jedi that some effort should be made to warn possible casualties of whatever the event is.

This situation opens, of course, the paradox of time, awareness, and action. How does observation of an event affect the event? Sometimes attempts to prevent a foreseen event, may later be seen to have contributed to the occurrance of the event.

Remember the story of the disciple who saw Death in the marketplace and immediately fled toward Samarkand, several hundred miles distant. That afternoon Death, at tea with the Master, asked the whereabouts of the disciple. When the Master replied, "Nearby I’m sure, for he attended our circle last night," Death said, "How odd, for I am to meet him in Samarkand ten days hence."

The late Idries Shah at the urging of companions visited a psychic or fortune teller. She told them many accurate things, but the accurate elements were somewhat scrambled and the interpretations offered were mostly not correct. Mr. Shah commented, "In the future,when people like this have learned to understand and clarify their skill they will be of great service to humanity." That is the hope of RV — to be of great service.

On another occasion Mr. Shah told a student, "You have got to learn to know the times. There are times when anything is possible. There are times when some things are possible. And there are times when nothing is possible."

Best wishes, Dan

Aloha Glenn,

Regarding the next prediction experiment:

"….it is my intention to post it 2 weeks prior to the date of event which is very soon. There are a few issues about this prediction that deal with ethics, especially ethics related to notification. The data seems to indicate a loss of at least one life."

Since it is your intention to publish these results publish them exactly as they have been obtained..in other words, as you would publish any other data, even a prediction of a yoyo in a box.

It is not our job to alter events but to see, obtain data and report in an accurate, timely and responsible manner. It is the R&D(research and development) of RV in which we are interested…leave the rest to the Universe (some read God)
Peace
Rosie

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Glenn, I speak to you not so much as one of your online students, but as a former infantryman and SFer. If I viewed a future event involving harm coming to somebody and this viewing was in sufficient clarity that I would know who to warn, I would be obliged to warn that individual. My warning would be made in a reasonable, discreet and calm way and I would be willing to explain how I came to this conclusion. I also realize that I could be publicly dismissed as a crackpot by this individual. In the final analysis, I would rather have warned the individual, been called a fool, and have my prediction not born out than have my RV prediction of harm proven correct without having made a reasonable effort to stop that harm. I believe you should make that reasonable effort to stop the harm.

De Oppresso Liber,

Walt

Tough question.

Is the individual identifiable?

Is it an event that is unstoppable but people can be warned of it? (Such as plane crash, dam breaking, quake…)

Is it an event that can be avoided by stopping some process? (Don’t take off. Close the building.)

There should be no loose ends, no room to second guess.

Documentation should be as thorough and complete as possible or the whole exercise is futile and may as well not be made public.

There would be as much to loose in a poorly documented hit as in a miss. For better or worse that is the way it is and that is how the rules of science and evidence work.

This is not the Art Bell show.

Yes yes yes

There should be no loose ends, no room to second guess.

Documentation should be as thorough and complete as possible or the whole exercise is futile and may as well not be made public.

There would be as much to loose in a poorly documented hit as in a miss. For better or worse that is the way it is and that is how the rules of science and evidence work.

This is not the Art Bell show.

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Preach it!

Yes yes yes

Let’s go for it, Glenn! Peace, Manalani

Preach it!