Target 4: Jesus Christ / current time

Analysis:

Jesus Christ is currently floating above earth (about the altitute of a geosynchronis satellite from the look of it) with 6 other smaller beings.

Either he has a halo, or there is a UFO over his head.

Jesus is soft and natural. His flesh is pale. It is cool at his present location, but doesn’t smell much. Either Jesus himself is tall, slanting, thin and shallow, or his location is tall and shallow. (Maybe this will be cleared up in P-4?)

Jesus and his pals and talking and laughing.

This seems like an appropriate analysis. The basic gestalts in the target and in the S3 appear to have been captured. I would love to see a session that says Ascended Jewish Carptenter. And would LOVE to view this target. Want to eyewitness the loaves and fishes miracle.

Banshee

This seems like an appropriate analysis. The basic gestalts in the target and in the S3 appear to have been captured. I would love to see a session that says Ascended Jewish Carptenter. And would LOVE to view this target. Want to eyewitness the loaves and fishes miracle. Banshee

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This seems like an appropriate analysis. The basic gestalts in the target and in the S3 appear to have been captured. I would love to see a session that says Ascended Jewish Carptenter. And would LOVE to view this target. Want to eyewitness the loaves and fishes miracle. Banshee

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You guys are something else! I`ve been lurking around here for awhile now. I bought the book by Laura Day someone commented on a few days ago.One of my questions in one of the exercizes was "Is Jesus Christ an extra terestrial?". I just wrote it this morning. Anyway, thanks for the answer!,

Hi Dick,

That was a cute analysis. But please be careful of making fun of too many people in RV. Sure, that’s a completely unverifiable target, but ya’ll have your share of esoterica here, for example:

STS-48 UFO Observation / Detail Of Objects / September 1991

I see the "keep your feet on the ground" attitude bantered about here, and that’s wonderful, but it’s fun to explore what you get when you task such things, and again, the HRVG does the same. I don’t see Lee Heather (who owns that site) making any outrageous claims – it’s just an example session, and a darn good one by Farsight SRV or Psi-Tech TRV standards. He’s a nice guy, I met him at Farsight, and he’s been practicing and talking to others in the field for a couple of years. Give him a little time and see what he does before you make fun of his work.

Just one gal’s opinion…

Ant Hill

Hi Pru…

I just this week had a couple of our viewers work a VERY esoteric target. I’ll get the sessions tonight and run some analysis then maybe put them up. It was a completely unverifiable target and produced some interesting results.

As for my work on the ET target you mentioned, all’s fair. Anyone can take a shot at it, or any of the sessions posted on this site. Tear it apart, criticize it, make fun of it. Won’t hurt my feelings. It was slipped to me after many dozens if not hundreds of our run-of-the-mill plain old validation targets.

I noticed the Jesus/Current Location target was posted as an example of an expert session. My criticism of targets like this stems from something I noticed when I was trained at Farsight.

We were given about 5 validation targets, then it was off to the races. Students were EXPECTING things like pyramids, Martians, Grays, Jesus, The Midwayers, The Galatic Federation, etc.

The students work was full of pyramids, Martians, Grays, Jesus, "other dimensional beings watching," ET spaceships, and all that kind of stuff. If you put down all that esoteric stuff, you are bound to have a "hit" sooner or later, because half (or more) of the targets were of this esoteric nature.

But who’s to say? Maybe Jesus is up above earth right now having a chuckle at our expense. :-)

Do as many essoteric target’s as you please just make sure that you have you’re audit trail and that it has a before and after. That is all the confirmation that you need , oh yeah have you’re stubby pencil with you.

JEDI

Hi Pru… I just this week had a couple of our viewers work a VERY esoteric target. I’ll get the sessions tonight and run some analysis then maybe put them up. It was a completely unverifiable target and produced some interesting results.

As for my work on the ET target you mentioned, all’s fair. Anyone can take a shot at it, or any of the sessions posted on this site. Tear it apart, criticize it, make fun of it. Won’t hurt my feelings. It was slipped to me after many dozens if not hundreds of our run-of-the-mill plain old validation targets.

I noticed the Jesus/Current Location target was posted as an example of an expert session. My criticism of targets like this stems from something I noticed when I was trained at Farsight.

We were given about 5 validation targets, then it was off to the races. Students were EXPECTING things like pyramids, Martians, Grays, Jesus, The Midwayers, The Galatic Federation, etc.

The students work was full of pyramids, Martians, Grays, Jesus, "other dimensional beings watching," ET spaceships, and all that kind of stuff. If you put down all that esoteric stuff, you are bound to have a "hit" sooner or later, because half (or more) of the targets were of this esoteric nature.

But who’s to say? Maybe Jesus is up above earth right now having a chuckle at our expense. :-)

Well my apologies to Mr Lee Heather for being run over by our commentaries. I assure you no harm was intended. The party line at HRVG has been validate first then stick in some esoterics for the value of what can be learned beyond our present comphrehension.

When I saw the posted session about Jesus/ current time it really made me wonder more about the corridors of the matrix more than anything else. It made me curious as to the nature of the tasker and what the tasker intended. The Matrix is the repository for all the is or was real, and all thoughts that are, or, are not real. Beliefs manifest in the Matrix, fears manifest in the Matrix, lies and truth alike exist there in waveform.

When I look at the data collected and look at the tasked cue it strikes home that sometimes the target is contaminated long before the viewer works it. The challenge is to cue the target in such a manner as to get you to the right place, not leave you adrift in a sea of matrix mirrors.

Mr Heather, sorry about our rowdy behavior. We all learn from what we discover along the way.

Aloha Glenn

My apologies too to Lee. I was trying to be "cute" and it came off as a bit mean spirited.

However, I believe the field of remote viewing desperately needs some credibility, and I don’t think targets like this help the cause. My rule of thumb is WOULD I SHOW THIS TO MY BOSS or my friends as an example of what I do in my spare time?

He would ask, "Now Dick, do you honestly believe this is true? That this person actually remote viewed Jesus Christ’s current location?"

to keep in remote viewing circles… and that’s BEFORE you even hit the public! LOL!

I wasn’t making a comment that I felt Lee’s results on the Jesus target were valid, and as all should know by now, all of the esoteric stuff that I do (which is few and far between) is fraught with my caveats and discussion on what it may or may not mean.

I just wanted to say that Lee is new to the public arena, and I’m sure he has a lot to learn as we all do, but since he wasn’t part of the general goings on here, it was unfair to make pot shots.

Tasker’s intent is key, but viewer’s intent can blow through tasker’s intent. Thoughts become real in some sense, and so when you view anything esoteric, if you are viewing the expected party line (Jesus floating above earth, martians under a mountain), you can’t discern thought form reality from physical reality. What is interesting to me is when you view something esoteric and you get unexpected stuff, and then others also get unexpected stuff.

Speaking of Jesus and unexpected stuff, I saw three viewer’s sessions this past year on the guy. They all said he had a paunch – he had a beer belly – he was overweight. Now that’s weird…

Ant Hill

Jesus was the first SF soldier trying to free the oppressed…

People new around here might want to visit our sessions page and see Pru’s work of the SidAshram. (You can click on Sessions, then Other RV Methods, then click the Sidashram.

Here is an interesting target. It has enough tangible stuff to let you know that Pru was on target right off the bat. And it also has some esoteric stuff that will make you pause and maybe reconsider your reality.

Was she making it up? No way. Of all the billions of things in the universe that could have been the target, she immediately (in about 20 seconds) correctly described the verifiable physical aspects of the target.

So if you trust the verifiable data, then what about the other stuff? I recall how impressed everyone in the class was when she produced this work.

When Pru teaches classes she always works a target. In this case the folks in her Hawaii class picked a target, gave her the ID (completely blind) and she worked it right in front of everyone.

Its funny how coincidences seem to pop up. Here I am criticizing esoteric targets…. Just this week I tasked probably the MOST esoteric, non verifiable target I’ve ever cued and gave it to two of our viewers.

I’ve done the preliminary analysis, then I need to scan the sessions and I will post the stuff. Then you can all have at me…. all’s fair.

I really doubth these kind of targets. I’m not an RVer ( can’t seem to get the hang of it ) but from what I’ve seen who ever RVs this kind of target ( specifically Jesus ) comes up with something different. I read McMoneagals session of Jesus in the Ultimate Time Machine and have read others as well. None of them seem to have any thing really in common. Personally I don’t think the man was anything other than a nice guy who tried to do something original. But we have built up this 2000 year old myth or story about him. I can’t help but think that when it comes to the esoteric, RVers draw from a pool of thought or speculation floating around out there. They are real THOUGHTS but to me that is as far as it goes. Would like to hear some feed back on this.

Rich….

Glenn gave a very good lecture on this in class. His post above was sort of the condensed version.

Yes, we have built up many myths, stories, lies, beliefs about Jesus over the past 2000 years. All of those go into the collective and exist electromagnetically. So indeed it is a maze, or as Glenn put it "house of mirrors" to work a target with such a non specific target cue.

He even mentioned that there are probably some people alive right now named Jesus Christ. So if you cue Jesus Christ /Current Time, would it not be congruent data if you described some guy sitting over a bowl of rice and beans in a shack in Chihuahua?

Jeus may have been the Original SF Soldier,

But Lucifer was the first Airborne Shock Trooper.
Cast out from heaven and beaten to the earth
by the ArchAngel Mikey.
In this life one must choose between the headgear.
The Green Beret of struggle in the remnants of the garden in the greatest "Stay Behind" op ever,
or the Razzberry Beret flying the Maroon Ballon in Crowland.
We all know what happens to Crows.
You never take them prisoner…..ever.
Infiltrate, eradicate, exfiltrate,
pontificate, and celebrate
Recon by fire
and count the screams in the night
Call all your friends
Spectre, Jolly, and Puff
Good friends to have
when the going gets tough
imagine old Lucy’s reaction
when set airborne with
the fulton extraction.
Aloha.

Dick,

Souldn’t the target read "SidAshram" rather than:

"SidAshram, With 2,000 year old beings inside"?

A target titled "SidAshram" is free of preconceived ideas. A target titled "SidAshram, with 2,000 year old beings inside" says it all, if you know what I mean.

I believe, knowing a tiny bit about your protocols, the target was never originally identified as "SidAshram, with 2,000 year old beings inside", but rather as some type of random assembly of letters and numbers.

As that is probably the case, perhaps the target name should be renamed, so as not to confuse newbies like me.

Regards,

John

People new around here might want to visit our sessions page and see Pru’s work of the SidAshram. (You can click on Sessions, then Other RV Methods, then click the Sidashram.

Here is an interesting target. It has enough tangible stuff to let you know that Pru was on target right off the bat. And it also has some esoteric stuff that will make you pause and maybe reconsider your reality.

Was she making it up? No way. Of all the billions of things in the universe that could have been the target, she immediately (in about 20 seconds) correctly described the verifiable physical aspects of the target. So if you trust the verifiable data, then what about the other stuff? I recall how impressed everyone in the class was when she produced this work.

When Pru teaches classes she always works a target. In this case the folks in her Hawaii class picked a target, gave her the ID (completely blind) and she worked it right in front of everyone.

Its funny how coincidences seem to pop up. Here I am criticizing esoteric targets…. Just this week I tasked probably the MOST esoteric, non verifiable target I’ve ever cued and gave it to two of our viewers. I’ve done the preliminary analysis, then I need to scan the sessions and I will post the stuff. Then you can all have at me…. all’s fair.

would it not be congruent data if you described some guy sitting over a bowl of rice and beans in a shack in Chihuahua?

A guy eating beans in a chihuahua.

Now THAT’S esoteric, folks.

-John

Aloha John,

It was I that cued the target for Pru, and yes, all she got from me was a random 8 digit ID number. She did not know the cue, which was SidAshram Tibet/2,000 year old beings inside/present time.
I heard the story of SidAshram on one of my many treks to India. Story has it that the 2,000 year old beings, Rishis or Enligtened Yogis, are among the youngest Rishis that live there.
We saw her view it, she was amazing. Some of us were fortunate enough to watch Glenn view. His work was, and is, astounding. When I grow up I wanna view like them. :))). Good question John.
Peace
Banshee

Aloha Guys,

You guys are scary! Thank GOD you’re on our side. Thanks to you, and all like you, we can securely say Happy Independance Day. May the fireworks be even more magnificent for you both this year.
Red White and True Blue
Banshee

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John…

You are right. Rose has since been taking instruction in the cueing targets and she is an excellent targeteer now.

The proper cue would have been:

SidAshram /Tibet / Present Time (or you could cue a different time depending on when you wanted the viewer to be there.)

If there are 2000 year old beings, then you would expect the viewer to notice that, or the monitor might help them pick it up.

At any rate, it was a fairly esoteric target. We all thought Pru did a marvelous job, and we were interested in the data.

Hi Dick,

I’m not that great of a targeteer yet, but thanks for the accolades. I wanted the viewer to tell me about the Beings in that specfic location..I had no idea how to cue it properly…would it be then..?

1) SidAshram/Tibet/Beings/Present Time OR

2) 2,000 yrs old Beings/SidAshram Tibet/Present Time

I think 2nd cue..right?

Banshee

I’d defer to Glenn on that one.

My thought is, you know the Ashram is there and exists.
Two thousand year old beings? Hmmm.
I’d put the viewer at the Ashram:

SidAshram / Tibet / Present Time

and then see if they found any unusual beings. It might take a monitored session and even some subcues.

I think writing "2,000 year old beings" into the target cue opens you up to criticism from the skeptic police.

You know how when we get into "new age" stuff Glenn sometimes rolls his eyes, throws a towel over his head, and puts his arms up in frustration? I bet he’s doing that about now. . . :-)

Aloha John,

You made me laugh :)
Don’t tell anyone. lol
Glenn

Aloha Dick and Banshee!

If you are cueing on the beings and want to find out IF they are really 2000 years old, I would think that the proper cue would be "Inhabitants / SidAshram, Tibet / Present Time". This would put the Primary Indicator on the inhabitants and the fact that they were 2000 years old would become evident (hopefully) during the session. What do you think? :)

Aloha, Mana

I believe you are right.

LOL! You guys certainly have a unique way of interpreting the Bible! Jesus certainly appeared to have been a warrior. God’s SF groundtrouper :) Mana

Yes Valtra sounds right.

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You, Sir, are a fucking lunatic.

Jeus may have been the Original SF Soldier, But Lucifer was the first Airborne Shock Trooper. Cast out from heaven and beaten to the earth by the ArchAngel Mikey. In this life one must choose between the headgear. The Green Beret of struggle in the remnants of the garden in the greatest "Stay Behind" op ever, or the Razzberry Beret flying the Maroon Ballon in Crowland. We all know what happens to Crows. You never take them prisoner…..ever. Infiltrate, eradicate, exfiltrate, pontificate, and celebrate Recon by fire and count the screams in the night Call all your friends Spectre, Jolly, and Puff Good friends to have when the going gets tough imagine old Lucy’s reaction when set airborne with the fulton extraction. Aloha.

You, Sir, are a fucking lunatic.

You saw it here folks, a Major (albiet a frocked Major) addressing an enlisted man as "Sir."

Draco,

This discorporate world is a school. Our worlds crumble, our relatioships end, our security is threatened. All materiality is illusion. The only reality is within one’s Self. I speak from experience. Step back, breathe in, look inside for your peace. You get get your life and respect back. Time out, get calm, look within.

Glenn can be a powerful ally.

Banshee

That was quite a statement you made in your post Draco. I take this opportunity to caution you. It is your right to feel as you do and have whatever opinion you may like as to my state of mind. I suggest you find better words to state so in this public forum. I would also suggest you turn off the idend feature in your browser, there is a lot about proxy servers they don’t tell you. If you would like to obtain more information please consult W. Richard Stevens book series TCP/IP ILLUSTRATED.

Aloha Glenn Wheaton

Aloha John, It was I that cued the target for Pru, and yes, all she got from me was a random 8 digit ID number. She did not know the cue, which was SidAshram Tibet/2,000 year old beings inside/present time. I heard the story of SidAshram on one of my many treks to India. Story has it that the 2,000 year old beings, Rishis or Enligtened Yogis, are among the youngest Rishis that live there. We saw her view it, she was amazing. Some of us were fortunate enough to watch Glenn view. His work was, and is, astounding. When I grow up I wanna view like them. :))). Good question John. Peace Banshee

Not only was Jesus the original SF soldier, but he was an A-team leader. I’m sure you remember the words to that song, Glenn.

Fulton extraction system – that’s enough to make anyone see Jesus!

De Opresso Liber

Walt

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I really doubth these kind of targets. I’m not an RVer ( can’t seem to get the hang of it ) but from what I’ve seen who ever RVs this kind of target ( specifically Jesus ) comes up with something different.

This has been shown again and again not only in esoteric targets. One example is the alleged underground alien bases. There are at least 4 totally different sets of locations that have been "found" using different disciplines. There are also at least 5 different "causes" for the crash of TWA 800….mechanical failure, terrorist missile, armed "friendly" missile, unarmed "friendly" missile, secret "green" ray.

LOL. Interesting! (:-)

Rich…. Glenn gave a very good lecture on this in class. His post above was sort of the condensed version.

Yes, we have built up many myths, stories, lies, beliefs about Jesus over the past 2000 years. All of those go into the collective and exist electromagnetically. So indeed it is a maze, or as Glenn put it "house of mirrors" to work a target with such a non specific target cue.

He even mentioned that there are probably some people alive right now named Jesus Christ. So if you cue Jesus Christ /Current Time, would it not be congruent data if you described some guy sitting over a bowl of rice and beans in a shack in Chihuahua?

But what about grimlins? Like the one in the old twilight movie. Guess they missed that one. LOL