Ultimate Time Machine

ALoha Dick,

I have not read the book yet, but I suspect that it will be a combination of good data and contamination. I think we have seen that in most RV work. Some of the predictions will be dead-on, some will be partially good, and some will never be. I think he knows that also.

ALoha Glenn

… but sheesh… God Bless you Glenn for keeping both of your feet on the ground and keeping us likewise rooted in reality.

I totally agree with the above statement. The more I read about the shenanigans that take place in the RV community, the more I see what a gem we have in GW.

Buddha Bless Glenn, too.

Geo.M.

I don’t think Joe has "gone off into La La Land", but at the same time, this book is not going to change my life. I was disappointed that more emphasis wasn’t done on RVing events that will be confirmable within a more reasonable time-frame. (like… before I’m dead?)

-John

Now I read his book where he describes the future of earth from now until the year 3000.

It is too big of leap for me. From saying "manmade channel" during PUT TO TEST, and sketching the dredging crane…. to describing what people will eat in 2030 and what the banking system will be, how the health care system will work, and how the stock market will perform in the next century. Its too big of a leap for me.

Why do people involved with Remote Viewing have to fly off into La La land? I believe Joe McMoneagle can describe a Russian nuclear submarine facility. I don’t believe he had an in depth discussion with Jesus Christ.

Well, Joe certainly isn’t the first to go that route. In fact in Mind Treck, Joe describes his psi sessions on Martian targets. Most of the "public" remote viewers (ex-military or those who have become teachers) have real whoppers to tell ….big time… whether UFOs or ETs. Somehow that fact is glossed over or not a topic of discussion. On what was probably the best ever RV discussion group PJ Gainer did not approve of bringing UFO/ET subjects into the discussions.

Underground UFO bases go wauy back to Swann and Price.

Strange how all of the psychics prior to the revelation of "remote viewing" never talked about aliens….spirits, dead relatives, evil entities, angels…..

now……its all multidimensional ETs ….from daily home visits to flashlight waving expeditions.

I’m rambling here at 1:00 AM… but sheesh… God Bless you Glenn for keeping both of your feet on the ground and keeping us likewise rooted in reality.

Ed Dames may be right about one thing: I think Ultimate Time Machine is ultimately more about psychic predictions that about remote viewing…at least as I understand it. I may be wrong. But to get the data he describes in his book would take a good team of remote viewers DECADES to produce.

I think he did compile it over many years, also he makes definate dis-claimers of potential accuracy.

Descrepancies….contradictions…..makes the ideogram go round.

I just finished one of those NDE experiencer books.

This person contradicts other psychics in that she states she learned there is no such thing as re-incarnation.

Rich

I think anybody who wants to comment on Joe’s new book should read it first. He has done more work in the lab for the advancement of RV than anybody. Has a right to have some fun with this book.

He clearly states that it will be fun to see which of his predictions come true and which ones don’t. He, unlike some of the other RVrs, doesn’t take himself too seriously. But he definitely is the best at what he does. And yes, it took him years to compile this data.

Why do people take shots at other RVrs when they don’t even know the basic facts? And I’m not talking about you Rich. You just happen to be the last poster on this topic.

Joe

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Well, Joe certainly isn’t the first to go that route. In fact in Mind Treck, Joe describes his psi sessions on Martian targets. Most of the "public" remote viewers (ex-military or those who have become teachers) have real whoppers to tell ….big time… whether UFOs or ETs. Somehow that fact is glossed over or not a topic of discussion. On what was probably the best ever RV discussion group PJ Gainer did not approve of bringing UFO/ET subjects into the discussions.

Underground UFO bases go wauy back to Swann and Price.

Strange how all of the psychics prior to the revelation of "remote viewing" never talked about aliens….spirits, dead relatives, evil entities, angels….. now……its all multidimensional ETs ….from daily home visits to flashlight waving expeditions.

I think he did compile it over many years, also he makes definate dis-claimers of potential accuracy.

Descrepancies….contradictions…..makes the ideogram go round.

I just finished one of those NDE experiencer books. This person contradicts other psychics in that she states she learned there is no such thing as re-incarnation.

Rich

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Hi Joe..
good to hear from you, good to see you posting on the BB here. I read the book.

I agree that Joe has earned everyone’s respect as a remote viewer. And yes, he did have some fun.

Probably the reason I was disappointed with the book was that I wanted more about remote viewing. A lot of the stuff, like his Kennedy chapter seemed to be more Joe’s philosophy than hard remote viewing data.

Maybe (probably) Joe is so good that he can just cool down and go to target… doesn’t need protocols to get us there like us mere mortals.

His predictions were very broad and general. I would be more interested to hear the blow by blow accounts of individual sessions… with sketches.

If I came off as blasting Joe personally, or questioning his RV ability, I apologize.

Aloha Dick, I just finished the book but will re-read it one more time. Mr. Mcmoneagle puts a lot of data in there to digest. I will work up a review :)
Aloha Glenn

Hi Joe,

So good to hear from you.

For anyone who doesn’t know, Joe and his then fiance Desiree (now wife) are charter members of the Banned From PSI TECH Club. They are strong minded and independent thinkers who asked all the right questions and, like the rest of us, got only abuse for their efforts.

I have kind of scanned my copy of McMoneagle’s book since reading time is a real luxury. I am disappointed that he does not mention anything that looks like free energy or alternative energy sources in our near future. So many tell us that these things are right around the corner.

Kay

I think anybody who wants to comment on Joe’s new book should read it first. He has done more work in the lab for the advancement of RV than anybody. Has a right to have some fun with this book.

He clearly states that it will be fun to see which of his predictions come true and which ones don’t. He, unlike some of the other RVrs, doesn’t take himself too seriously. But he definitely is the best at what he does. And yes, it took him years to compile this data.

Why do people take shots at other RVrs when they don’t even know the basic facts? And I’m not talking about you Rich. You just happen to be the last poster on this topic.

Joe

Hi Kay! and everybody else:

I apologize for responding the way I did to the reviews of Joe’s book. I sometimes write before I think. I too would have liked more specific predictions and especially some alternative/free energy data but

I waited so long for the book that I didn’t care at the time. I was just happy to finally have it.

Oh yeah, regarding Ed Dames and Art Bell. Sometimes I just have to shake my head and ignore certain things. 6th seal – gay marriages? I can’t believe Art didn’t step in on that one. Unbelieveable!

Ed says something like, ‘yeah but that’s not my personal view Art, I’m just telling you what we saw in our viewings.’

Yeah right. I think Ed has shown his true homphobic self. He had to interpret the so called data and that was him speaking. Just sickening to hear Ed & Art. I’ll never understand how Art lets Dames get away with that crap.

Oh well. Hey Dick, did you ever get my Story Musgrave interview?

Take care everybody,

Joe

P.S. – Kay, thanks for the kind words.

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Hi Joe,

So good to hear from you.

For anyone who doesn’t know, Joe and his then fiance Desiree (now wife) are charter members of the Banned From PSI TECH Club. They are strong minded and independent thinkers who asked all the right questions and, like the rest of us, got only abuse for their efforts.

I have kind of scanned my copy of McMoneagle’s book since reading time is a real luxury. I am disappointed that he does not mention anything that looks like free energy or alternative energy sources in our near future. So many tell us that these things are right around the corner.

Kay

I did not know whether to laugh or cry when I heard Dames proclaim that seeing two men getting married sort of heralded the End of the World. Pathetic does not begin to describe this. This really proves….to me….that Dames colors everything with his own prejudices. Art, of course, has made his basic homophobia well known over the years. The topic has not come up lately but it has in the past.

I find it hard to believe that so called religious people pick and choose what to believe out their respective "good books". Do we still believe that it was sex that got Adam and Eve kicked out of the garden? How could it possibly be anything regarding sex and love that would herald the END? In this world, brother, ya gotta take love where ya find it!!!

I won’t go into all the other abominations, that are listed along with homosexuality in the Old Testament, that many of us do everyday. I will remind you of what Paul has to say about women that obviously springs from his addiction to them.

This is, without a doubt, the craziest of Dames’ predictions and the one that proves to me that he dredges this stuff out of his own psyche.

Kay

Hi Kay! and everybody else:

I apologize for responding the way I did to the reviews of Joe’s book. I sometimes write before I think. I too would have liked more specific predictions and especially some alternative/free energy data but I waited so long for the book that I didn’t care at the time. I was just happy to finally have it.

Oh yeah, regarding Ed Dames and Art Bell. Sometimes I just have to shake my head and ignore certain things. 6th seal – gay marriages? I can’t believe Art didn’t step in on that one. Unbelieveable! Ed says something like, ‘yeah but that’s not my personal view Art, I’m just telling you what we saw in our viewings.’

Yeah right. I think Ed has shown his true homphobic self. He had to interpret the so called data and that was him speaking. Just sickening to hear Ed & Art. I’ll never understand how Art lets Dames get away with that crap.

Oh well. Hey Dick, did you ever get my Story Musgrave interview?

Take care everybody,

Joe

P.S. – Kay, thanks for the kind words.

I won’t go into all the other abominations, that are listed along with homosexuality in the Old Testament, that many of us do everyday.

Divination, or… actually pretty much exactly what we’re up to on with RV qualifies pretty well as part of that list.

It’s funny, when I was a kid at one of the "Camp Meetings" I mentioned in my earlier message (about Ed & Religion), an itinerant evangelist was the guest speaker, and one of the topics he really got going on the demonic "psychotronics" that was going on at SRI, and how the US Gov’t had essentially given itself over to the service of Satan. The funny thing about all this is that this was in the mid 80’s, when (as far as I understand it) the SRI work was still very much classified. Apparently, the evangelist had come into the information through discussions with a fellow who worked at SRI at the time. I remember listening with absolute attention… little knowing that someday I would be swapping e-mails with the principals of that research, and actually DOING this horrid "psychotronics" stuff.

Man, how the times change a person. :-)

-John

Having attended a few of those ‘camp meetings’ myself at a younger age, I can testify that next to Art Bell….who was just a kid at the time…..those evangelists really keep their fingers on the pulse of what is going on in the world. One of the reasons that I check out the International briefings on the TBN Network every week.

Kay

Divination, or… actually pretty much exactly what we’re up to on with RV qualifies pretty well as part of that list.

It’s funny, when I was a kid at one of the "Camp Meetings" I mentioned in my earlier message (about Ed & Religion), an itinerant evangelist was the guest speaker, and one of the topics he really got going on the demonic "psychotronics" that was going on at SRI, and how the US Gov’t had essentially given itself over to the service of Satan. The funny thing about all this is that this was in the mid 80’s, when (as far as I understand it) the SRI work was still very much classified. Apparently, the evangelist had come into the information through discussions with a fellow who worked at SRI at the time. I remember listening with absolute attention… little knowing that someday I would be swapping e-mails with the principals of that research, and actually DOING this horrid "psychotronics" stuff.

Man, how the times change a person. :-)

-John