What’s this all about?

Mr. Fuller, Psi-Tech has a smear campaign against all Remote Viewers not associated with Psi-Tech.

It is not just me; it’s all Remote Viewers.

I have made a point to show My Military Records to all My Resident students Personally.

I have since my Retirement from SOF Military Intelligence Learned as much as I can about what others are or were doing. That includes Psi-Tech and TRV.

Until The Major and Psi-Tech became obsessed with the end of the world I was a student and supporter.

My own Experience is well publicized and the results of my training can easily be seen in the work of those that train with me.

The work speaks for itself.

I am a very good Viewer and analyst, but I constantly strive to be better, do better and help others to break through the Ivory Veils people strive to maintain about RV.

Now every other month or so Psi-tech sends someone over here to post this single ref to that document written by Joni Dourif.

We have entered a time when our work is more important than pussyfooting around with people who want to tear down what others build. You have enjoyed a period where you have not had to face the music. If needed I can crank it up.

The work of the students of the Guild tells the tale of the tape. RV is performance based not the ramblings of someone with no track record that can be validated.

This post is just about all I will take from Psi-Tech.

I will Publish on this site, and maintain, a document I prepared some months ago about the Psi-Tech track record of predictions from the beginning. In addition

the use of the mass media to promulgate these predictions and the tactics used by Psi-Tech that has made the Saying "Banned BY Psi-Tech" famous.

There are you happy now :)

Aloha Glenn

This is the same letter Joni has circulated in various forms on their site after HRVG people started applying pressure on Psi-tech regarding their predictions and claim to a RV monopoly. First it only refered to Glenn by his name, but later she added HRVG to the title so that people would not be confused with who he is.

Anyway, I’ll let Glenn reply to these allegations for the umptieth time, perhaps he should put up a permanent reply to Joni’s rantings and ravings on outsite to shut her up once and for all.

Anyway, I’ll throw in some of my observations. First of all, there is a world of difference between the TRV protocols and the HRVG protocols. Anyone who have taken the time to work with both protocols will immediately recognise some fundamental short-comings with the way TRV is taught by Dames and Joni. The most fundamental differences is HRVG protocols teaches how to go to theta and with a monitor retrieve very high grade data, TRV doesn’t.

Secondly, we are very careful and are taught detailed protocols on how to, while remaining double-blind to target, analyze session material and retrieve solid target related data, TRV doesn’t, since Dames claims that TRV data doesn’t require third party analysis or analysis at all for that matter. That fact alone is a bunch of bunk, since no uncorroborated/raw data in the military would be used for any intelligence purposes, and Dames knows that.

Thirdly, as previously stated on this BB to previous questions regarding this post, why doesn’t Psi-Tech EVER criticize our session work or protocols??? They KNOW that the HRVG session material posted on our site is rock solid, so in order to maintain their commercial monopoly they attack Glenn’s background. Anyone who does a bit of research will find out that Glenn’s background is precisely what he claims it to be, and a lot more he can’t talk about, due to the fact that non-disclosure agreements to not become invalid over night, if ever.

As a final closing point, Glenn teaches us and anyone interested for FREE, he doesn’t get a single dollar to spend for himself. That speaks for itself.

Let’s have a little experiment, if Joni and Ed are interested in discussing/debating the truth behind Glenn Wheaton, try to copy this post and post it on Psi-Tech’s Bulletin Board. You don’t have to be a remote viewer to know that it won’t even make it up there. They’ll ban you from their BB and send the post onto the garbage heap, together with any other post that challenges Psi-Tech’s wannabe monopoly.

OK I’ll let Glenn provide the rest.

Aloha, Jim

what’s this?

www.trv-psitech.com/glennwheaton.htm

Aloha Glenn!

My understanding of remote viewing and being consciously attuned to the subconscious was that one is able to let ego go and not need to prove that oneself is any better, bigger, faster, more powerful than anyone else and understand that we are all ONE! Doesn’t sound like those at PSI-Tech have achieved any of this – which puts into question whether they have achieved anything with RV’ing at all!

Please don’t let them put you on the defensive – there is such as thing as Universal Justice and "Vengance is Mine" sayeth the Lord!

Sue

This is the same letter Joni has circulated in various forms on their site after HRVG people started applying pressure on Psi-tech regarding their predictions and claim to a RV monopoly. First it only refered to Glenn by his name, but later she added HRVG to the title so that people would not be confused with who he is.

Anyway, I’ll let Glenn reply to these allegations for the umptieth time, perhaps he should put up a permanent reply to Joni’s rantings and ravings on outsite to shut her up once and for all.

Anyway, I’ll throw in some of my observations. First of all, there is a world of difference between the TRV protocols and the HRVG protocols. Anyone who have taken the time to work with both protocols will immediately recognise some fundamental short-comings with the way TRV is taught by Dames and Joni. The most fundamental differences is HRVG protocols teaches how to go to theta and with a monitor retrieve very high grade data, TRV doesn’t.

Secondly, we are very careful and are taught detailed protocols on how to, while remaining double-blind to target, analyze session material and retrieve solid target related data, TRV doesn’t, since Dames claims that TRV data doesn’t require third party analysis or analysis at all for that matter. That fact alone is a bunch of bunk, since no uncorroborated/raw data in the military would be used for any intelligence purposes, and Dames knows that.

Thirdly, as previously stated on this BB to previous questions regarding this post, why doesn’t Psi-Tech EVER criticize our session work or protocols??? They KNOW that the HRVG session material posted on our site is rock solid, so in order to maintain their commercial monopoly they attack Glenn’s background. Anyone who does a bit of research will find out that Glenn’s background is precisely what he claims it to be, and a lot more he can’t talk about, due to the fact that non-disclosure agreements to not become invalid over night, if ever.

As a final closing point, Glenn teaches us and anyone interested for FREE, he doesn’t get a single dollar to spend for himself. That speaks for itself.

Let’s have a little experiment, if Joni and Ed are interested in discussing/debating the truth behind Glenn Wheaton, try to copy this post and post it on Psi-Tech’s Bulletin Board. You don’t have to be a remote viewer to know that it won’t even make it up there. They’ll ban you from their BB and send the post onto the garbage heap, together with any other post that challenges Psi-Tech’s wannabe monopoly.

OK I’ll let Glenn provide the rest.

Aloha, Jim

Sorry – about my last message! Messages are being posted while I’m posting and I’m getting confused about what’s been sent!

I’d be happy to post a copy of this on Psi-Tech’s BB – I haven’t been banned yet! Did you really mean it?

Sue.

Oh yes, me and others can contest to that fact. Try yourself, but it’s your BB account that’s on the line :) Be careful. Aloha, Jim

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Sorry – about my last message! Messages are being posted while I’m posting and I’m getting confused about what’s been sent!

I’d be happy to post a copy of this on Psi-Tech’s BB – I haven’t been banned yet! Did you really mean it?

Sue.

Oh yes, me and others can contest to that fact. Try yourself, but it’s your BB account that’s on the line :) Be careful. Aloha, Jim

What is on line? Are you saying I may NEED that BB in the future?

Sue.

what’s this? www.trv-psitech.com/glennwheaton.htm

"MEDIOCRITY, EGO MANIA & VICIOUS SLANDER…" is this the best that Psi-Tech can do to give themselves credibility?

Well if the only thing I have to lose is my BB Account with psi-tech – I’m presently waiting for my password to be e-mailed and I’m POISED!

Sue

Well, I went ahead and did it: Here’s a copy of what was posted on Psi-Tech’s Open Forum BB. Now we just wait for the repercussions!

I was browsing the HRVG BB when I came across a message diverting

attention to Joni’s post about Glenn Wheaton in PSI Tech’s
Announcements.

My understanding of remote viewing and being consciously attuned to

the subconscious was that one is able to let ego go and not need to
prove that oneself is any better, bigger, faster, more powerful than
anyone else and
understand that we are all ONE! Doesn’t sound like those at PSI-Tech
have achieved any of this – which puts into question whether you
have achieved anything with RV’ing at all!

There is such as thing as Universal Justice and "Vengeance is Mine"

sayeth the Lord!

This is their case against such accusations – in case any of you are

open-minded enough to be interested!

This is the same letter Joni has circulated in various forms on their

site after HRVG people started applying pressure on Psi-tech
regarding their predictions and claim to a RV monopoly. First it only
refered to Glenn by his name, but later she added HRVG to the title
so that people would not be confused with who he is.

Anyway, I’ll let Glenn reply to these allegations for the umptieth time,

perhaps he should put up a permanent reply
to Joni’s rantings and ravings on outsite to shut her up once and for
all.

Anyway, I’ll throw in some of my observations. First of all, there is a

world of difference between the TRV protocols and the HRVG
protocols. Anyone who have taken the time to work with both
protocols will immediately recognise some fundamental
short-comings with the way TRV is taught by Dames and Joni. The
most fundamental differences is HRVG protocols teaches how to go to
theta and with a monitor retrieve very high grade data, TRV doesn’t.

Secondly, we are very careful and are taught detailed protocols on

how to, while remaining double-blind to target,analyze session
material and retrieve solid target related data, TRV doesn’t, since
Dames claims that TRV data doesn’t require third party analysis or
analysis at all for that matter. That fact alone is a bunch of bunk,
since no
uncorroborated/raw data in the military would be used for any
intelligence purposes, and Dames knows that.

Thirdly, as previously stated on this BB to previous questions

regarding this post, why doesn’t Psi-Tech EVER criticize our session
work or protocols??? They KNOW that the HRVG session material
posted on our site is rock
solid, so in order to maintain their commercial monopoly they attack
Glenn’s background. Anyone who does a bit of research will find out
that Glenn’s background is precisely what he claims it to be, and a lot
more he can’t talk about, due to the fact that non-disclosure
agreements to not become invalid over night, if ever.

As a final closing point, Glenn teaches us and anyone interested for

FREE, he doesn’t get a single dollar to spend for himself. That
speaks for itself.

Let’s have a little experiment, if Joni and Ed are interested in

discussing/debating the truth behind Glenn Wheaton,try to copy this
post and post it on Psi-Tech’s Bulletin Board. You don’t have to be a
remote viewer to know that it won’t even make it up there. They’ll
ban you from their BB and send the post onto the garbage heap,
together with
any other post that challenges Psi-Tech’s wannabe monopoly.

Now I’ve used up my time on the BB – I suppose you can ban me for

presenting another view!

That was a quick but worthwhile registration! It’s a real shame that

the public can’t hear all views about RV’ing without this squabbling
going on and discrediting of the entire subject!

Dear Sue,

Your argument has little to do with my "allegations" about Glenn

Wheaton.

He is not who and what he claims to be. It’s that simple.

Anyone who chooses to follow direction from a person who’s

foundation is an unsubstantiated web of loosely weaved lies,
deserves what they get.

This is your understanding of Remote Viewing?

"My understanding of remote viewing and being consciously attuned to the

subconscious was that one is able to let ego go and not need to prove that
oneself is any better, bigger, faster, more powerful than anyone else and
understand that we are all ONE!"

Sounds like a personal problem to me, Sue.

Remote Viewing is a skill, not a religion, philosophy, or

self-psychology. Talk to me in a few months when the "rush of the
novelty" has worn off and you really want to learn something
substantial.

Joni

PSI TECH, VP

WELL, IT DOESN’T SEEM I’M BANNED YET! ANYTHING ELSE YOU’D LIKE ME TO TELL THEM? MAY AS WELL USE THE EXPOSURE WHILE WE CAN I SUPPOSE – THAT’S IF YOU WANT IT!

I guess I was wrong :)

At least they are moving in the right direction by not removing the post, so maybe we accomplished something.

Good job Sue. Aloha, Jim

Dear Sue,

Your argument has little to do with my "allegations" about Glenn Wheaton.

He is not who and what he claims to be. It’s that simple.

Anyone who chooses to follow direction from a person who’s foundation is an unsubstantiated web of loosely weaved lies, deserves what they get.

This is your understanding of Remote Viewing?

"My understanding of remote viewing and being consciously attuned to the subconscious was that one is able to let ego go and not need to prove that oneself is any better, bigger, faster, more powerful than anyone else and understand that we are all ONE!"

Sounds like a personal problem to me, Sue.

Remote Viewing is a skill, not a religion, philosophy, or self-psychology. Talk to me in a few months when the "rush of the novelty" has worn off and you really want to learn something substantial.

Joni PSI TECH, VP

WELL, IT DOESN’T SEEM I’M BANNED YET! ANYTHING ELSE YOU’D LIKE ME TO TELL THEM? MAY AS WELL USE THE EXPOSURE WHILE WE CAN I SUPPOSE – THAT’S IF YOU WANT IT!

Topic:

Who is Glenn Wheaton & the HRVG? (3 of 3), Read 1 times

Conf:

Open Discussion

From:

Sue Darby (hypnodarby@bigpond.com)

Date:

Friday, December 04, 1998 02:42 AM

On 12/4/98 1:38:06 AM, Joni Dourif wrote:Dear Sue,

>This is your understanding ofRemote Viewing?"My understanding of remoteviewing and being consciouslyattuned to the subconsciouswas that one is able to letego go and not need to provethat oneself is any better,bigger,faster, more powerful thananyone else andunderstand that we are allONE!"

This is the impression I received from Gerald O’Donnell’s Academy of

Remote Viewing Into Space and Time – not necessarily a religious
problem. Or are you saying he is not reputable either? How is a new
person to RV’ing to navigate through all this?Sounds like a personal problemto me, Sue.Remote Viewing is a skill, nota religion, philosophy, orself-psychology. Talk to me ina few months when the "rush ofthe novelty" has worn off andyou really want to learnsomething substantial.
Cute sales technique – must try it some time!

Sue.

Topic:

Who is Glenn Wheaton & the HRVG? (3 of 3), Read 14 times

Conf:

Open Discussion

From:

Joni Dourif (jonidourif@trv-psitech.com)

Date:

Friday, December 04, 1998 03:21 AM

Yes, Sue! Jump on the band wagon with Glenn, O’donnnelll, PJ, Pru,

& Carr, and anyone else with a little bit, so, they can show off their
little tricks.

Sell a little of this and a little of that.

The weeds are indeed getting thick.

Joni

PSI TECH, VP’

Subject:

BB Account Information

Date:

Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:03:00 -0800

From:

webmaster@trv-psitech.com

To:

hypnodarby@bigpond.com

This email is to notify you that your account on our bulletin board(s) has been deleted. The reasons for this are as follows:

—————————–

You have been subjected to the "uneducated puerile

statement filter."

Have a nice day.

—————————–

Your account may be reinstated if at some point in the future you show evidence you are willing to abide by the rules set forth by the operators of this site, to provide a constructive atmosphere for our students. Appeals may be made to this email address.

THEY MUST READ THIS BB – THEY ACTUALLY CUT ME OFF WHILE I WAS ON-LINE READING THROUGH OTHER POSTS ON THEIR BB. DON’T KNOW QUITE WHAT I SAID THAT WAS UNEDUCATED OR PUERILE!

Aloha, Sue.

Well, this discussion blew past my vocabulary understanding. For anyone down at my level…

puerile: adj 1. Belonging to childhood; juvenile
2. Immature; childish

I suppose Joni knows the meaning of this well as it seems she must deal with it often.

Why didn’t Mr Robert Fuller leave an email address for response to his post? Was he the PSY Techno ‘plant’ who’s purpose was to leave the link?

As I read thru this lists of posts, I asked the same question Sue did: Is there information of value on PSI’s BB for which I would feel a loss to be banned from? (I have not tried to gain access… perhaps I cannot now as they seem to keep a very close eye on this BB – some ‘weeds’ need very close attention due to their deep roots and fast growth, ya’know)

:( ): <—- Warcollier ideogram of Joni frowning

Just stirrin’ the Pot,

Tom

"MEDIOCRITY, EGO MANIA & VICIOUS SLANDER…" is this the best that Psi-Tech can do to give themselves credibility?

Um… probably, yes.

I suspect there are more banned people than accepted people.

Still looking for the student who can easily use the TRV tapes to predict geophysical events as the project has been handed of by Ed.

Apparently there are no successfull grads yet.

Remember Ed himself predicted "the Next North American
volcano to blow would be Mammoth Mountain"

guess Mexico’s Pocopetl is in South America!! :)

Well, Sue, now you don’t have to spar with Joni anymore. I did it for a couple of years……don’t know why I did it for so long.

When I received the infamous…"You have been deleted" email I simply emailed back a list of the things they had to do to get back on my favorite websites list.

One interesting thing I might mention is that Dames claim that TRV provides direct knowledge and needs no analysis is a fairly new concept that he came up with only after he had videos to peddle.

Welcome to "CLUB BANNED".

Kay

I suspect there are more banned people than accepted people.

Still looking for the student who can easily use the TRV tapes to predict geophysical events as the project has been handed of by Ed.

Apparently there are no successfull grads yet.

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