Printable Version, Edward Dames

March 2001

Edward A. Dames, Major, U.S. Army (Ret.)
Past, Present and Future

by Dick Allgire

[Ed Dames granted an interview to the RV News, which was conducted by telephone and email in early February 2001.]

I first met Ed Dames in 1997, at a party in Hawaii hosted by one of his students. Dames had flown to the Big Island from Los Angeles to give him private instruction, and they held a small party at the conclusion of the training, to which I was invited. So I hopped on an inter island flight and spent an evening with Ed Dames.

Just in case you were wondering . . . there's a good reason Ed Dames is a regular guest on Art Bell's Coast To Coast AM radio show. He's interesting. If you're looking for fascinating conversation, either on the radio or at a party, Dames is a great guest. His wit is laced with an edge of sarcasm - - - which he displays a bit more at a wine and cheese party than on the radio - - - but essentially what you hear on Art Bell is what you get.

Dames served as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army Airborne Infantry from 1967 until 1974. He was an O5H Morse Code Intercept operator in the Airborne ASA. He left the Army and attended college at U.C. Berkeley, graduating as an ROTC Distinguished Military Graduate with a B.A. in Chinese. Then he reinlisted in the Army, this time as an officer with the 20th Armored Cavalry Regiment in Nurnberg, Germany where he worked with the Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1982 to 84.

One of the more interesting facets of Ed Dames’ military intelligence career involved operating under civilian cover during the 1980s. He posed at different times as a professional toxicologist, research physician, or information science manager. He prepared for those roles by getting on the job training at U.S. Government scientific facilities, or by attending civilian professional society seminars. That training enabled him to pose as an expert on subjects ranging from toxicology, immunology, and biotechnology to directed energy effects and neutron activation spectroscopy.

Dames also debriefed foreign émigrés and defectors, which required him to establish a rapport and gain their trust in order to determine whether or not they had information of value to U.S. Intelligence.

Then came remote viewing, and Dames was selected as a member of the U.S. Army prototype Remote Viewing Program at Fort Meade, the one we have all heard so much about. When it became clear the government intended to abandon what was by then known as Star Gate, Dames took it public. The rest, as they say, is history.

Ed Dames brought remote viewing into the civilian world and then he popularized it. He brought it out of what he calls "the deep dark secret world" by forming Psi Tech in 1990, and then he took it to the masses through his training tapes and his many appearances on the Art Bell show. Love him or hate him, a lot of us would not be involved in RV if it wasn't for Ed Dames.

It wasn't easy transitioning this technology from a top-secret military application to the civilian business world, but he did it. And he did it five years prior to declassification, without being prosecuted.

"I almost went to jail," says Dames. "I held three or four very big aces. That's all I'll say."

He won't go into details.

Ed Dames was interested in esoteric targets even back when he was the training and operations officer of the military's top secret Ft. Meade remote viewing program. Under the guise of "advanced training " he liked to task the viewers against targets such as ancient civilizations on Mars, and UFOs.

Dames has maintained files of the session work done on those esoteric targets. "The original military so-called advanced targets," says Dames. "Mars, a lot of Mars stuff, a lot of UFO stuff that I slipped to the military viewers, I made copies of and took home. Some of them I have the originals," he says with a laugh. "There are some interesting stories in those old boxes."

According to Dames, the files contain work done by remote viewers Paul Smith, Lyn Buchanan, Greg Seward, and David Morehouse.

The ownership of the files is currently in dispute, and the subject of litigation between Dames and the present owners of the current incarnation of Psi Tech.

The Junkyard Dog

One of those sessions in the files concerns the demise of the Soviet Phobos 2 Probe, sent to rendezvous with the Martian Moon Phobos in 1989. The space probe disappeared suddenly on March 25, 1989. UFO buffs claim the last images transmitted by the spacecraft show a large, oval UFO looming in the final frames.

Dames says the Soviets asked for information through back channels, and viewers in the Ft. Meade unit worked the disappearance event as a target.

When describing one particularly interesting session on the Phobos disappearance, he becomes even more animated than usual. He was struggling to describe a machine he perceived on the surface of Mars. “It looked like a sand dollar,” recalls Dames. “Actually a machine that looked like this big 30-foot sand dollar, nestled in a shallow depression on the surface of the planet. It popped right up and actually came in physical contact with the probe and disabled it.”

“So I’m viewing this thing,” Dames continues, “and you know, you take what you get. I’m writing it down, I’m drawing the sketches, and my description verbatim matched Paul Smith’s. We were both having a problem describing this machine, so we used an allegory, allegorical overlay. Because we had no other way of conceiving it.”

“And what I said was, ’This was like a junk yard dog. It had the mentality of a guard dog that was obedient to its owner.’ I’ll be damned if Paul Smith didn’t say the same thing, almost verbatim. I’ll never forget that. It was so neat. It was one of the most memorable things I’ve ever seen. We were just struggling to describe this, so I reached back in and said ‘guard dog, faithful to owner’ and all this kind of stuff. I said ‘its like a bird dog that mangles its prey, you know because it doesn’t know any better.’ Anyway I went into all this and here comes Paul Smith with almost the same exact allegory. I love it.”

Dames does love remote viewing, and his life in Hawaii. He lives in Kihei, on Maui, and commutes to the mainland two weeks a month to teach at his Technical Remote Viewing Institute located in Los Angeles. When he has time in Hawaii he makes the most of it.

“I dive every morning,” Dames says. “I’m a free diver and I’m a fish watcher. I play with the turtles and the fish. I’m in the water every morning down to about 50 feet by myself. I’m on the road about 2 weeks a month. But when I’m back here I enjoy it. I bike, I run - - - I love it - - - I really do.”

He says he remote views every day, sometimes working three targets simultaneously. “I work about once a day. I usually run about three different targets at the same time. You know its like reading three different books, you just stick a bookmark in one after 45 minutes, and you pick up another one. There’s no continuity problem when you work like that.”

Dames says he has no specific ritual or “cool down” prior to working a session. “I usually throw rocks at my neighbor’s dog,” he says with a chuckle. “No, I don’t have any cool down. I usually make a cup of coffee or tea and take a few sips of it, because in Technical Remote Viewing you can only take breaks at certain points. You can’t sit there and sip tea. So that’s the only thing that I do. Just sit down and relax, pen goes to paper, and it’s off to town.”

Dames sees the physical set up as important to successful remote viewing. “It is an issue,” states Dames. “In the last place I lived it was a resort. And there were palm trees, swimming pools and things like that. It’s very distracting. You really do need a place, not necessarily hermetically sealed and homogeneously colored, but you can’t have a lot of distractions. We are very visual creatures as you know. Human beings are very visual. And you can’t have any bright colors around you, particularly bright colors. That’s extremely distracting. Subliminally you can’t get away from that. You also don’t want any motion around you. Motion is the primal thing. Before we were ever Neanderthals, when we were swimming around in some primordial sea, motion meant things; it meant either something to eat or something that was going to eat us. That is the number one thing that the subliminal is attracted to. You cannot avoid it. After about 20 minutes into a session you can, but when you start out it’s an impediment.”

What Dames seems to feel is not an impediment, is knowing what the target is when he sits down to remote view. While many top people in the field maintain working frontloaded can not even be considered remote viewing, it is what Dames does almost exclusively.

“I cue my own targets,” Dames states matter-of-factly. “I work almost entirely frontloaded. Unless I’m in the classroom with my students, then I do an instructor demo and they’ll give it to me blind. Or if I work for the camera, many times I’ll do that blind. For instance if I’m doing a television program in Los Angeles, then I’ll do blind targets.”

Crystalline Pebbles - Medical Remote Viewing

A recent project involved a medical condition suffered by one of his students, a woman from Sedona, Arizona. Dames says it was a bizarre syndrome that had stumped the Mayo Clinic. “She had these crystalline pebbles,” he says. “Pebble sized grains coming out of her eyes. Glass, like compact pieces of glass, and she would hear this cracking in her sinuses and her head. It was very annoying and she had gone through PET scans and CAT scans and MRIs, and they could not diagnose what was wrong with her. I used remote viewing to determine the cause of that malady in that person.”

He did six sessions. The target cue for the first was: [PERSON’S NAME] / CRANIUM CONDITION / SOURCE.

Dames says the first session yielded information that told him there was something foreign in the woman’s head. “I had to determine that it was not part of her own tissue,” he says. “A tumor for instance, that it wasn’t her own cells metastasizing. After I determined there was an organism, a living organism in her head, I had to then distinguish what kind of organism that was. Animal, bacterial, viral, fungal, something like that.”

So he cued a second session: THIS PARTICULAR LIFEFORM (FROM FIRST SESSION) / ORIGIN.

“I ran that and looked at the natural environment,” says Dames, “ where this would normally be found, and that didn’t help because it was normally found in animals. So I did more work to identify the phylum and genre of this thing and I found out it was a fungus.”

He says doctors overlooked this. “A test,” says Dames, “can identify that your body is being attacked by a fungus. But this test was not performed because the effects were so bizarre nobody suspected it was a fungus. So in fact these crystalline things coming out of her head were the dead cells, conglomerations of dead cells from the fungus as the cells were dying. And the fungus cells are made of keratin, the same thing our finger nails and lobster skins are made of. That’s what was coming out of her eyes, and breaking up in her sinuses. The cracking sounds that she heard.”

Having made his diagnosis, Dames set out to find the cure. He worked two sessions to find what he feels should be the proper treatment. “The treatment and the cure was colloidal silver as a nasal spray. And that’s what she’s doing now.”

I asked Dames if any physician verified all this, or if the condition was improving. "Not yet," he said. “We’ll wait and see.”

Targeting Leah Freeman’s Killer

In a past appearance on the Art Bell radio show Dames vowed to pursue the killer of Leah Freeman until he was found and brought to justice. Freeman was a young girl, abducted and murdered in Oregon. The project was dubbed, “Operation Golden Eye.”

“What I do,” explains Dames, “in the case of Operation Golden Eye, I go after the child’s killer. Killers usually stay in one place. They have a job or they’re living on the road or something like that, but eventually they stay around one place long enough that we can identify that place. And that’s what we’re going after in Operation Golden Eye. In this case Leah Freeman’s murder. We have identified a work facility, the place where he works, in Oregon. But we don’t go after the killer’s residence because residences are homogeneous, especially if someone’s in a big city. So we don’t mess with that.”

In the Leah Freeman case Dames has data from eighty different remote viewing sessions, produced by seven different viewers. Some might wonder how an analyst would sift through all that data, since it is widely held that not every viewer is one hundred percent correct all the time. Some analysts rely on “consensus analysis,” giving more weight to data corroborated independently by multiple viewers. Dames feels that is not an issue.

“When I train the viewers myself they’re standardized,” he says confidently. “They’re all good. They don’t get out of the class without being good. They don’t get a certificate. So the viewers that I use are all standard operators and they don’t miss their target. They’re taught not to, so I know that the data is good. Sometimes, in a worst case, there is not a lot of data and I can’t use the session. But they’re always on target because they’re trained to be on target.”

If there are discrepancies, Dames blames the targeting, not the viewers data. “If viewers who are trained in TRV by me are all over the place,” explains Dames, “then I know that my cue is wrong.”

He offers this as an example of a cue that could produce seemingly different or incorrect data: LEAH FREEMAN/ KILLER’S WORKPLACE.

Dames explains how that cue might cause problems. “Let’s say the killer is out of work and doesn’t have a job. Okay? Then some viewers might be describing the most recent workplace and others might describe a campground. Then I know something is wrong with the cue. Let’s say the person doesn’t work at all, they’re independently wealthy and we find them in a house. Then I know there’s something wrong.”

“But in this case the worker had three different jobs,” says Dames. “He was moonlighting and doing some other stuff too. And it’s more complicated. This particular person was a construction worker and was working on different locations in different towns. So that was a mess. I had to refine the cue and then run “killer’s employer.” That’s what gave me the name of the employer. We were able to look where the headquarters was, and looked at the symbol for the company, then put that together analytically.”

At publication, no arrest has been made in the case.

Now that he is no longer affiliated with Psi Tech, Ed Dames has returned to teaching, and he’s doing it in an intimate environment; just two students at a time. “In order to really teach it well,” says Dames, “I can’t teach more than two people. I could give a workshop for people who are familiar and give them tips and pointers. But to really teach, it’s just like flight school you know. You can’t have more than two people in the cockpit.”

He says the sheer amount of information the students are exposed to can send them into “information overload.” To combat this he has the students rotate on the “hot seat,” 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off. One student watches while the other works. “This gives them time to absorb and integrate what they’re learning.”

Dames agrees with other experts in the field that remote viewing is a somewhat perishable skill. “It reminds me very much, very analogous to language,” says Dames. “I speak Chinese and it’s a complex language, like any other language, and I have noticed over the years that if I don’t practice my Chinese it is perishable and it does go away. I have found that remote viewing is very similar in that way, that you do get rusty and you start to miss things. You’re not as alert, not as facile and agile.”

Dames continues to be a popular guest on Art Bell’s Coast To Coast AM radio show. He was one of Art’s first guests when Art returned to the show last month. The topics were vintage Dames or “Dr. Doom”: the killer plant pathogen spreading from Africa, remote viewing Satan, UFO’s, and the Loch Ness monster, which he says is the ghost of a dinosaur. The audience loves every minute of it. “They want to be entertained,” says Dames.

Ed Dames is currently the principal instructor at The TRV Institute. For information about his personalized training, from TRV 101 - Fundamentals of Technical Remote Viewing, to TRV 300 - Advanced Skills/Project Management, and Instructor Certification, visit his website at www.trvinstitute.com.